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Not all aircraft can move under their own steam and often they need the help of of a lorry or two. Here are some shots taken through the ages. Anyone any more?
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/WW1paradeaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/Interwaraix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/Wellingtonaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/Lerwickaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/Stirlingaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/ConingsbyVampireaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/AbingdonAECaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/Mastiffsaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/MastiffatSkegaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/SeddonRaynhamJPaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/SeddonBirminghamaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/TigerSTypeaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/GannetAWaix.jpg
mawganmad
14-05-2009, 16:35
Talking of transport, the RAF has two modern versions of the good old 'Queen Mary' aircraft recovery trailer.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/Airfield%20Vehicles/ZSAMar091105.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/Airfield%20Vehicles/Zstathan016.jpg
Both are manufactured by King and are used to recover crashed aircraft or to move airframes around the UK, and indeed the world.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/Airfield%20Vehicles/Zsa473-1.jpg
There is a general trailer in use aswel. All of these are currently pulled by DAF CFs and XFs which are leased to the MoD.
mawganmad
14-05-2009, 20:11
Nice pics WJT, the bottom one with the Ford Thames transporting a Gannet is nice. Every Fairey Gannet that was built at the Hayes, Middlesex, factory had to be roaded to White Waltham and Northolt this way for putting together and test flying. The pic looks like XA430 going back to Hayes for full COD.4 conversion. It looks close to an airfield by the background.
I'm amazed at that relatively small tractor unit (?) pulling the SARO Lerwick, that must have been a slow move!
Keep on posting olive drab with yellow stripes, fantastic stuff - even the Mk2 Escort estate!
TommyUSA
14-05-2009, 21:47
Removal of US Air Flight 1459 (which crashed in the Hudson River in New York in February of 2009).
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww50/japercaper/090204-9.jpg
TommyU
Ah MM, so its olive drab with yellow stripes that turns you on. Will have to see what I can find!
Here,you go MM, a few more green and yellow stripes involved in aircraft transportation. They are all relatively recent - well, over the last 15 - 25 years.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/AECBuccaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/MastiffConby2aix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/MastiffConbyaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/SeddonConbyaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/SeddonRaynhamaix.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/MandatorV8/SeddonSwantonaix.jpg
norwichpaul
02-06-2009, 17:26
Here is one I took earlier Te he he he! It is a lorry owned by Whitehead Aircraft (1917) Ltd with a an aeroplane (what type is the a/c and vehicle). The photo came out of a book that the company published during WW1 which is in the archives and the great man JA Whitehead has signed it which is rather nice.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/norwichpaul/Odds%20and%20Ends%20England/img319.jpg
norwichpaul
02-06-2009, 18:26
This is another Whitehead vehicle, and before you say the image is posted in the wrong section, well it is but the timber that the vehicle is carrying is going to be made into aeroplanes!
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/norwichpaul/Odds%20and%20Ends%20England/img325.jpg
Some of these are Military versions of Commercial road haulage classics!
I will have a go at ident for a laugh :)
#1 Crossley ?
#3/#4 Morris Commercial ?
#6 S type Bedford (probably called differently in the military).
#7 AEC Mandator (first truck I drove after getting my HGV)
#8 Leyland Mastiff, (gawd awful hideous ....! )
#10 Seddon Atkinson 200/400 series or commonly referred to by drivers as 'Sudden Accidents'
#11 Sudd...err..Seddon Atki with the Iveco cab and branded as a Strato, another miserable POS.
#12 Another S type this is a civilian version.
#13 Thames Trader
P Bellamy
03-06-2009, 00:37
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/norwichpaul/Odds%20and%20Ends%20England/img325.jpg
Foden 5 Ton Steam Wagon. :wink:
TTFN,
PB
Denis: Pretty much spot on I reckon, but I can see that you would never have got a job as a PR for Leyland or Seddon Akki!
I would add the following:
The tractor units (or 'heads' as the RAF MT people always seemed to call them) on the Queen Mary trailers with the Wellington and Lerwick fuselages are Commer Q2.
The AEC pics (at Abingdon and with the Buccaneer) are Mercury tractor units, not Mandators (they had the smaller 505 engine not the big 760 beastie). Without looking back at the pics I think they also had the lighter narrow-track front axles.
I did one hear that the RAF buy of Mastiffs was the result of cancellation of a huge order by some firm, with the Government stepping in smartly to stop Leyland from losing out on the deal.
The Coningsby Bedford tractor unit was, I believe, designated SA. The other civilian Bedford S Type was very popular in my home area of Lincolnshire, with many produce merchants and other hauliers running large fleets of them.
norwichpaul
03-06-2009, 10:44
Is the aeroplane on the Whitehead lorry, a Scout if so which one Bristol or Sopwith?
mawganmad
03-06-2009, 11:29
My immediate thought was a Sopwith, but don't know which one.
Looks more like a Sopwith Pup
Presumably a Sopwith, given that Whitehead were based in Richmond.
mawganmad
03-06-2009, 15:01
Looks more like a Sopwith Pup
A Sopwith 'Pup' is a Scout. Scout was its official RFC name, Pup is something it was named by its flyers, being considered the junior of the Camel, and became the more popular name.
norwichpaul
03-06-2009, 16:28
Whitehead were based in Richmond but their main works and aerodrome was at Hanworth Park. They must of built aircraft under licence.
mawganmad
04-06-2009, 09:22
Whitehead were based in Richmond but their main works and aerodrome was at Hanworth Park. They must of built aircraft under licence.
Yes, the Whitehead Aircraft Ltd was based in an old drill hall in Richmond, with a modern purpose built factory site built in Feltam. Their aerodrome was at Hanworth, where they even had a flying school.
Most of their work was indeed sub contractor aircraft construction, and the Sopwith Scout was a major contract for the company.
Whitehead aircraft only existed between 1915-19, on the riches of WWI in other words.
Very well researched link to the sad tale here, http://www.whiteheadaircraft.com/whitehead-aircraft-ltd
Would be great to know if any of the Whitehead buildings exist anymore.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/pagen/Airfield%20Vehicles/Zsa473-1.jpg
Now, that's a Phantom isn't it? Do you know which one it is... or maybe was. I think Thunder and Lightings may like to update their listings a bit!
is it the St. Athan phantom??
mawganmad
05-09-2009, 09:39
Now, that's a Phantom isn't it? Do you know which one it is... or maybe was. I think Thunder and Lightings may like to update their listings a bit!
Yes, was the St Athan gate guard, XV498 (wore XV500).
I thought demobbed knew about this one?
If you look under the gate guardians thread there are more pics of it.
Yes, was the St Athan gate guard, XV498 (wore XV500).
I thought demobbed knew about this one?
If you look under the gate guardians thread there are more pics of it.
Didn't know that it had been scrapped. Wondered why it disappeared from Google earth. Someone put a gate guardian up there quick. Every airfield should have one IMO!
P Bellamy
19-02-2010, 18:58
Found this snap in the archives today:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/CubTruck.jpg
TTFN,
PB
What's the aeroplane - an L-4?
P Bellamy
23-02-2010, 15:13
It's most likely an L-4.
The photo was taken to illustrate the packing method that was to be used for the forthcoming Normandy landings, where L-4s were taken ashore from landing craft and reassembled in the first suitable bit of open space they could find.
All the best,
PB
Daveg4otu
23-02-2010, 17:41
Somewhere on the internet I have seen a photo of an L-4/truck combination being driven down the ramp onto an LCT .
Unfortunately can't remember which site.
Dave Smith
23-02-2010, 19:17
This will be the one. Any idea which Channel port this was?
Daveg4otu
23-02-2010, 19:59
That's the one .... no idea of location but can say that it doesn't look like Torquay, Brixham, Teignmouth,Poole or Weymouth.
I remember a store about one being assembled on the beach at Normnady on D-Day. I think it became a shell magnet and upset a few folks trying to get on with the war - alive.
It might have been a Stephen Ambrose one.
woodster
23-02-2010, 20:57
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss234/woody_photo/23-02-2010205524.jpg photo of brixham harbour in 2001,no landing crafts but same wall!
Daveg4otu
23-02-2010, 21:18
Yep - I was wrong about Brixham -that certainly is the place.
Les Freathy
18-03-2010, 20:49
thought i would pop this one in for interest
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