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PETERTHEEATER
14-05-2008, 07:48
EXETER AIRPORT - UNIDENTIFIED WW2 BUILDINGS

Whilst looking for other things in Google Earth I came across these two buildings at Honiton Clyst (EXETER). It's the side arrangements that stand out but the image isn't sharp enough to define the structures

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.737936&lon=-3.416779&z=19.3&r=0&src=msl

I knew that I had seen something similar elsewhere and eventually found a WW2 aerial photo of DUXFORD showing two similar buildings at the rear of the site to the north of the road.

That threw me because I had seen the Duxford buildings closeup in 1965(?) when I was there doing an RAF Bomb Disposal task and they had been used for storing 30mm ammo for the Hunter/Javelins in the late 50s, so I assumed they were post WW2.

Now, looking at GE they are gone.

Can anyone ID the Exeter buildings?

Paul Francis
14-05-2008, 08:51
These are buildings 134 and 124, SAA stores for airfield defence ammunition. Built c.1940 and similar to those that used to be at Duxford

PETERTHEEATER
14-05-2008, 09:56
These are buildings 134 and 124, SAA stores for airfield defence ammunition. Built c.1940 and similar to those that used to be at Duxford

Thanks NP. They are large and permanent for SAA stores. Do you have an AM Drawing Number?

That makes sense. I went over to Duxford in 1965 or 1966 (I was based at Debden with the RAF bomb Disposal Flight) following receipt of an anonymous letter sent to the AM from an ex RAF type who said that a large quantity of ammo had been buried (post war) by him and others and gave a rough location.

We took one of our (then) new German made metal detectors and after a couple of hours got a very large area reading about 50 yards from one of the subject buildings. After days of digging we had unearthed hundreds of thousands of rounds of belted mixed .303 ammo.

Paul Francis
14-05-2008, 11:49
Danger Building - Ammunition Store House 3181/40 (124)

This is one of two store houses for the storage of .303, 20mm, 2lb 40mm anti-aircraft ammunition and pyrotechnics. This building has a rectangular-shaped plan-form forming a block of six storage cubicles. An external annexe housed a heating chamber to provide heat for one cubicle used to store 2lb anti-aircraft ammunition. Each cubicle has its own access through double steel doors and is protected by a traverse brick wall.

All walls (except heating chamber) are 18in solid brick which along with concrete beams support a reinforced concrete slab roof.

? (124) NGR: SY 0006 9410


Taken from a report I did on the airport at Exeter

PETERTHEEATER
15-05-2008, 09:29
Danger Building - Ammunition Store House 3181/40 (124)

This is one of two store houses for the storage of .303, 20mm, 2lb 40mm anti-aircraft ammunition and pyrotechnics. This building has a rectangular-shaped plan-form forming a block of six storage cubicles. An external annexe housed a heating chamber to provide heat for one cubicle used to store 2lb anti-aircraft ammunition. Each cubicle has its own access through double steel doors and is protected by a traverse brick wall.

All walls (except heating chamber) are 18in solid brick which along with concrete beams support a reinforced concrete slab roof.

? (124) NGR: SY 0006 9410


Taken from a report I did on the airport at Exeter

Thanks NP, that fills in the blanks for me.

Peter

Ant
15-05-2008, 21:01
I use to use both the old A30 and then from the time the new A30 was built that too, I was very interested to see just how near the new road cut near to the present site. In as much as that it cut into probably what was the old WWII site.
My point being that there are two MOD type buildings on the south side of the A30 bypass and I wonder if you have any idea what they are, they are just on the south side of the area now which is a small industial site many thanks Ant

Richard Flagg
15-05-2008, 21:04
Ant

Is this the site you mean?
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.72717 ... =0&src=msl (http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.727179&lon=-3.414422&z=18.7&r=0&src=msl)

If so, from the aerial it looks like the Ops-Block

Perhaps someone can confirm for definate.

Richard

Ant
16-05-2008, 08:27
Thanks. Though I did think that it was nearer to the road and that it was two or three Rectangle shapes narrow ends north to south, lots of small windows. located near to the roof line which I though was asbestos, though I could be wrong, Perhaps they are chicken house's LOL

Ant
17-05-2008, 16:23
Now after surfing the web for hours came across building that is very similar to the ones at Exeter (south of the A30 ) this one is from Llandow so anybody got any Ideas now you can all see it This is one of those thing that has been bugging me for ages

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/mikiy53/Airfield%20photos/Llandow_03d.jpg

NJR
17-05-2008, 16:33
It's a Gym and Chancel, the gym being the larger part of the building on the left. These buildings had many uses, sometimes a projection room was added to the gym so it could be used as a cinema.

CDP
17-05-2008, 18:01
Ant, the side facing you in your photograph also shows the changing rooms and gymnasium equipment store.

Chris

Ant
20-05-2008, 18:37
Thanks everybody for your input. I think its about 6 years ? that I have wondered about these, so thank to all Ant

Paul Francis
20-05-2008, 23:37
The gym at Exeter is nothing like Ants photo. It was a unique design.

Ant
21-05-2008, 07:39
Paul Thanks for your comment, I only used that picture because it was the nearest to how I remember the building looking.( it has been 4 years since I last past it) I don't think of course that the view is the same as the building I'm talking about. One does look at it from a different angle, i.e. towards a southern aspect, also I don't remember the changing rooms on the side! But there is a building there which is similar to the one illustrated, so please put use out of our misery and tell us that it is not an old RAF building and its really a chicken house :) Thanks Ant
P's and just to make matters worst aren't there two of them? I seem to remember trees to the right hand side too?

Paul Francis
21-05-2008, 11:34
The gym is located at SY 0120 9295. The ops block is in Poltimore Park. If you would like a free copy of a 159 page report I did on Exeter airport and the local defences in and around Exeter then PM me your e-mail address and I will send to you. It contains everything you need to know about the history of the airport and its buildings. The file size is 26 meg and it will be sent via SendThisFile. This offer is only open to members of ARG - Dont all rush at once!

Ant
23-05-2008, 16:41
Hello, now I took the plunge and got Paul to send me the report that he did on Exeter Aerodrome. Well Its certainly interesting reading, though involved its fluent without being too wordy.

As to the Gym well. It is as I thought very slightly similar to the one I posted up on the forum, but reading though Paul's Report all becomes startlingly clear, in the first place its a flat roof and secondly its longer too. As to if its still in use by the farm, I have no knowledge of such; as it is at least for years since I have past by it. So come on some one as your going down that way this weekend have a look and report back here please!

Once again Paul many thanks for the information,
Regards to all Anthony 8)

Paul Francis
14-03-2009, 09:48
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/norwichpaul/Airfield%20Plans/ext.jpg

ianbache
18-03-2010, 16:37
Hi all
heres a image of what looks like acrammble, aircraft of 87sqn based at exeter during 1940

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/87SQNExeter1940.jpg

MARTIN ARTHURS
07-08-2010, 22:08
can any one tell me when the hangar nere the old A30 was changed to it's present shape ie the raised end away from the road. Also there is a planing application to replace the hangar with a small power station.

XL573
09-08-2010, 10:12
The most recent news I have, is that the hangar will be demolished in December 2010. As usual this might and most probably will change between now and then.

XL573

exeterInterested
27-03-2011, 11:06
The use of any if the buildings that known. That kind of thing.

To explain, I'm interested in finding out what the buildings we see there now were used for. I happened across the servay conducted for the councils on Culmhead, and that sparked my interest in actually finding out stuff about Exeter which I'm significantly more familiar with and my grandfather was stationed for at least part of the war.

mawganmad
27-03-2011, 12:39
I know what you meant EI, the most comprehensive plans for what you need, ie building numbers and a key to their use is a Record Site Plan, you should be able to obtain one for Exeter from the RAFM at Hendon.
Also some members here may have a copy or are familiar with the various buildings and their uses.

CornwallPhil
06-09-2011, 12:32
Just thought those of you with an interest in Exeter might like to read this story, which I saw as a report on our BBC Regional news programme last night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-14793720

Richard Flagg
25-09-2011, 22:02
I have been sent an email via the ARG website from Andrew Edbroke saying the Bellman hangar at exeter is due to be demolished next week, is anyone local in a position to take some photos before/during of this?

Richard Flagg
12-10-2011, 15:02
These photos have been sent to me by Andrew Edbroke, taken with his camera phone on 22/9/11.

Airfield North side - B1 hangar
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0150.jpg

Airfield North side - Bellman
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0151.jpg

Airfield North side - various hangar types on show
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0152.jpg

Bellman hangar door runner
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0153.jpg

Bellman (East view) full height
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0154.jpg

Bellman, (east view, south east corner)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0155.jpg

Bellman
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0157.jpg

South side of airfield - Unsure of hangar type
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0158.jpg

South side of airfield - Hinadi hangar??
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/Andrew%20Edbroke/Image0160.jpg

PETERTHEEATER
29-01-2012, 08:30
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l366/PRACHUAP/Exeterbombdamage1944IWMHU91898.jpg

Oblique aerial view of Exeter airfield, Devon, from the north-east. Damage caused by the severe night air raids mounted against the airfield in April and May 1941 is still apparent among the buildings of the technical site on the left, including the large pre-war civilian hangar used by the Royal Aircraft Establishment. In the foreground repairs to the grass surfaces have been carried out by filling in bomb craters with rubble from bombed houses in Exeter. Aircraft, many of which belong to the Gunnery Research Unit, are dispersed around the airfield and in the adjoining fields. Boulton Paul Defiants of No. 307 (Polish) Squadron RAF can be seen parked in the double aircraft pens constructed around the dispersal loop track (lower right), which cuts across fields and hedge boundaries of land requisitioned from nearby Treasbeare Farm.

Courtesy of Imperial War Museum © IWM (HU 91898)

CornwallPhil
27-03-2012, 11:28
A memorial has been unveiled today at Exeter. Click on the link for a BBC news story

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-17521126

Richard Flagg
21-11-2012, 22:01
Letter recieved from ARG member David Craven that I thought may interest the forum. Any comments, please let me know so I can contact him with any more information.



Exeter Airport Update

During 2012 the raised roof Bellman hangar was demolished, along with a small (Robins?) hangar. This is to facilitate the large SKYPARK industrial park / business park project. Further in to the airport on the north side, the old hangars, No.49 and 52 may also be at risk as this new monstrosity may engulf them. On the site of the old raised roof hangar a large new EON generating station has been built already. Another Bellman hangar on the opposite side of the A30 is apparently not affected.

I believe these hangars were used in WW2 for the Civilian Repair Organisation (CRO), AST Ltd, where many damaged spitfires were rebuilt.

It looks very much like SKYPARK will also encroach on the intersecting ends of the two disused runways.

Over on the main airport site, the large new hangars, No.1 and No.2 are in constant use by the FLYBE Engineering for aircraft maintenance, mainly Dash-8ís, Embraer C170ís and C190ís etc. The old hangar No.21 (Hinaidi type) is still used for aircraft maintenance although partly given up to workshops. Hangar 21 was the Mosquito / Meteor hangar in the days of 3 CAACU.

Up the other end of the terminal building, the old No.3 Hangar is used for occasional FLYBE aircraft maintenance or as a line servicing base. In the CAACU days this hangar was the Vampire hangar. The airport terminal building itself may be in line for a re-vamp eventually and No.3 hangar does not appear to be threatened. Was No.3 a variant on the VR pattern?

Going back to the Bellman hangars over the north side, I think in the 1950ís to 1970ís these were used by HARPER AIRCRAFT and EXETER AIRCRAFT LTD, sometimes making commercial components, Viscount / VC-10 parts, motor scooters and motorway sign gantryís.

In the 1970ís INTRA AIRWAYS / FIELDS used No.49 for DC-3 maintenance, later ISCAVIA used No.49 for light and general aircraft maintenance. I think the old raised roof hangar was used by the HUNTER FLYING GROUP, then I think they more recently used No.52 until they moved out to St Athan. No.52 is used for light aircraft but I fear these two hangarís days may be numbered.

As you may well know, the little pre-war flying club hangar that was near the terminal was demolished some years ago to facilitate the building of a new arrivals hall. Apparently some old steel rafters had bullet holes from a WW2 Luftwaffe attack!

A recent addition is a statue of a fighter pilot figure near the terminal, detailing the squadrons based at Exeter like No.87, 213 and 307(Polish) Squadrons.

The single runway, 08/26, serves the airport. The secondary runway just used for aircraft parking in recent years.

The short runway running roughly parallel to the A30 has been disused for many years, although often used for the parking of stored BAe146ís, B737ís etc in recent years.

Over the main terminal side some WW2 maycrete buildings survive and are in use by a variety of organisations.

I hope the photos are of interest.

I would like to thank Mr Steven Ayres, Communications Manager, Exeter Airport and Mr Gary Holly, Flybe Engineering for their help.

Yours sincerely

David Craven

No.1 and 2 Hangars, FLYBE Engineering
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/DEVON/Exeter/DavidCraven-Exeter3-001.jpg

No.3 Hangar. Aircraft Tail Docks either side
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/DEVON/Exeter/DavidCraven-Exeter4-001.jpg

Hangar No.21, Old Hinaidi type
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/DEVON/Exeter/DavidCraven-Exeter2-001.jpg

Hangar No.49 and 52, Still surviving.... For now...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/DEVON/Exeter/DavidCraven-Exeter1-001.jpg

Fighter Pilot Memorial at Exeter Airport
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/DEVON/Exeter/DavidCraven-Exeter5.jpg


Please note, the Maycrete reference. I assume this to be temporary brick buildings as I have no reference to Maycrete buildings being constructed at Exeter.

PETERTHEEATER
22-11-2012, 07:59
Over the main terminal side some WW2 maycrete buildings survive and are in use by a variety of organisations.

That will gladden NP's heart...:wink: