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jason
09-08-2009, 21:38
I have read in the local press that there is a small museum here but the question is where is the site itself, a look on Google has turned up nothing so i now turn to you guys for help. Apparently the Guardhouse and Transmittor building plus others still stand.

Richard Flagg
09-08-2009, 21:58
Its here Jason;
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.575984&lon=1.329873&z=16.5&r=0&src=msl

Not sure how much remains, I know one of the towers there is original, the other is a modern one.

Richard Flagg
09-08-2009, 22:01
Looking at the flashearth again, there is what looks like a control room and two tower bases here;
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.574955&lon=1.322863&z=19.1&r=0&src=msl

Interestingly, there is what looks like an aircraft in the back garden of this bungalow;
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.574319&lon=1.324666&z=20&r=0&src=msl

PETERTHEEATER
10-08-2009, 08:11
There is a fully traversed building here with what looks to be four tower supports and Tx or Rx cabin.

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.574955&lon=1.322863&z=19.1&r=0&src=msl

P Bellamy
11-08-2009, 22:12
Here's an aerial photo of the site overlaid into Google Earth:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHCGE.jpg

and the various parts of the site colour-coded:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/StokeHolyCrossCHoverlay.jpg

The Receiver Array with it's square layout is in green on the left, with presumably the buried RX Reserve to it's right in yellow.
The in-line Transmitter array is on the right in blue, with the presumed TX Buried Reserve to the right of that in yellow again.

Neither of the buried reserves appear to have standing masts, there are certainly no shadows that I can see.

One of the Tx masts has been built off line, although examination of the air photo, and current GE imagery, shows mast bases where the mast should have been had it been built in line.
There appears to be some kind of structure constructed in between the vacant mast bases, which is again visible in the 40's and current images.

Each of the two main sites appear to have been well protected by pillboxes around their perimeters.

All the best,
PB

P Bellamy
12-08-2009, 18:44
The "virtual" RAF Stoke Holy Cross:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHC4.jpg

Tx Array in the foreground, with the Rx Array behind:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHC3.jpg

Tx Array from above:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHC2.jpg

Rx Array from above:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHC1.jpg

The entire site sits atop a ridge and is aimed northeast, seen here from the adjoining valley. Screenshot faces southwest:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/SHC5.jpg

All the best,
PB

jason
12-08-2009, 19:25
That's really interesting to see Paul. I'd imagine the masts would be a very overpowering sight to the locals but also they must have been heavily defended from the air as the Germans would be determined to destroy the site.

PETERTHEEATER
13-08-2009, 08:46
Nice virtual comparisons Paul.

Peter Kirk
13-08-2009, 08:52
Those shadows on the 1940s overlays are just perfect.

Richard Flagg
19-11-2010, 12:03
An interesting website with some brilliant images on;
http://www.poringlandarchive.co.uk/stoke-holy-cross/raf-stoke-holy-cross

Carnaby
19-11-2010, 12:41
Yer - very interesting. I've told them their 'masts' were towers 8-).

Graham

Roger Dalleywater
12-09-2011, 12:44
I have read in the local press that there is a small museum here but the question is where is the site itself, a look on Google has turned up nothing so i now turn to you guys for help. Apparently the Guardhouse and Transmittor building plus others still stand.

I was posted on this site as a National Serviceman in 1955. The domestic unit, billets etc were situated on the northern edge of the
village of Poringland. No traces found on a recent visit.,(2010). One tower remains with the small guard house set back from gside a string of houses. Could this be the small museum mentioned?

PBest
15-12-2011, 23:27
I have never been aware of a Museum at this site, it is all pretty secure, but I can ask. I used to work for BT who have the Tower near the road. As far as I know the old CH tower to the West of the site is still used by the MOD, and the building at its base used to have some equipment in, there also is likely to be a cabin there with more recent equipment.
I am very interested in why there was one tower apparently moved (during WW2?) out of line. When I first went to the site around 1969, the 'moved' tower was still there (I think) and the Eastern most tower was in use by BT (well the PO in those days) to carry the 405 line Anglia TV feed from London. That one was dismantled sometime after 1971 when the 625 line colour TV arrived and the service was transfered to the new BT tower that still stands, it has all gone over to Optical Fibre now :-(

PBest
15-12-2011, 23:37
Having just looked at the Poringland site refered to above, I see a reference to a small museum in the Guard Hut at the Receiver site entrance in Chandler Road.
I never knew it was there, next time I go past, I will call in and have a look.

Richard Flagg
16-12-2011, 12:50
PBest - the tower was rebuilt in WWII as a Bristol Blenheim crashed into the original tower destroying it. There is a plaque remembering the crew there.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/NORFOLK/Stoke%20Holy%20Cross/20090818StokeHolyCross26-1.jpg

You are correct that the museum is in the former guard hut at the receiver site, it is mainly photographs but worth a look if you can locate the owner of the place!

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/NORFOLK/Stoke%20Holy%20Cross/20090818StokeHolyCross21-1.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/NORFOLK/Stoke%20Holy%20Cross/20090818StokeHolyCross22-1.jpg

PBest
16-12-2011, 22:03
PB (the real and original one !) your post of 11-8-2009 gives a very real impression of the site, very nice use of graphics.
Do you have a date for the aerial photo ? because as you say that clearly shows the 'displaced tower' but a photo on the poringlandarchive site dated 9-5-1942 shows them inline as does an aerial photo.
Having noticed this displaced base many years ago from the top of the BT tower, I have always pondered why and when it was done.
I cannot think of a reason whilst it was a CH site, but it may have been done after the war. I will ask my contacts in the locallity, and also at the Museum at Neatishead, who might know.
Finding this very interesting site has re-kindled my interest.
reference was made to bullet damage to one of the towers, indeed this is true, the CH tower that is left has 'pock-marks' not holes low down on the SW leg (if I remember correctly, probably 30 yrs ago when I saw them!).
Do you have any information as to the tower numbering ?
We had a 'bit of a problem' with the resistance of the Station Earth, I had to quote a figure to the local broadcaster when they installed the local radio antennas on the top stick (how did we get it up there ? that is another story), so I got an expert along with a specialist meter to measure it. First answer was 0.00 Ohms, just teensy bit low !
So we moved the test stakes further away 200 and 400 yards, not much change, so the expert went away to think, and when he had one near Trouse and the other in Norwich we got something like 0.8 Ohms, with all the earth systems of 6 towers bases and 3 buildings all bonded together it should be low, but not 0.00 Ohms.

P Bellamy
16-12-2011, 22:09
PB (the real and original one !) your post of 11-8-2009 gives a very real impression of the site, very nice use of graphics.
Do you have a date for the aerial photo ? because as you say that clearly shows the 'displaced tower' but a photo on the poringlandarchive site dated 9-5-1942 shows them inline as does an aerial photo.

The aerial photo is from Norfolk County Council's E-Map Explorer website, who give the date as 1946.

All the best,
PB

PETERTHEEATER
25-01-2012, 09:24
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l366/PRACHUAP/StokeHolyCrossIWMMH34110.jpg

RAF Stoke Holy Cross, Norfolk: AMES Type 1 East Coast Chain Home radar station, seen from the south. Upper Stoke is in the foreground.

Courtesy of Imperial War Museum IWM (MH 34110)

DG1
12-11-2012, 01:26
Have a look at this.

http://www.urbexforums.com/showthread.php/16750-RAF-Stoke-Holy-Cross-Chain-Home-Station-2012