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Richard Flagg
26-08-2009, 22:37
Just looking at Flashearth and came across this;
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=51.350963&lon=-0.117803&z=18.2&r=0&src=msl

I didn't realise Croydon had a hard runway, at least I assume that is what this is. Can anyone confirm?

Cheers

P Bellamy
27-08-2009, 03:14
This might help:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Croy1.jpg

I'm presuming a mid-late 40's date for this photo, the six fighter pens at the northern side of the airfield look to be disused.
There also appears to be some construction work ongoing in the area of your current image, with a dashed centre-line visible at both ends of that landing strip. It all gets a bit indistinct in the middle though.

And to keep certain individuals happy, the landing circle is just visible too. :lol:

All the best,
PB

Peter Kirk
27-08-2009, 09:05
The only hard bit was in the South East where there is a short stretch. The rest was grass. Not sure about the NW end though as there didn't seem to be any remains like the SE section.

Richard Flagg
29-08-2009, 13:56
Tower taken on 27th Auust 2009
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/SURREY/Croydon/20090827Croydon28-1.jpg

mawganmad
29-08-2009, 14:45
A nice shot of some beautiful architecture, and surely the most iconic airfield building in the UK?

Peter Kirk
29-08-2009, 16:51
And White!!

PETERTHEEATER
30-08-2009, 06:52
Impressive. Thank goodness someone cares!

Robin
30-08-2009, 10:54
I think that the Air Terminal is now a hotel, as I seem to remember staying there in the early 80s.

Robin.

Richard Flagg
30-08-2009, 11:40
The Terminal building is now offices and a visitor centre (open sundays only!) and the hotel is still a hotel adjacent to the terminal. I took photos of both and will put a few more up tonight.

typhoons
30-08-2009, 20:20
Lovely building, always reminds me of the old Metropolis film, for some strange reason ....:|

mawganmad
01-09-2009, 08:00
Looks more like grey or v.light stone to me. Anyhow whatever colour, just realy good to see these buildings cherished.
Does anyone know if the control room has been restored with any kit etc, I'm assuming the masts and ariels are recreations?

Should be remembered aswel that Croydon airport was pioneering in its air trafffic services and equipment, and some of its personnel where instrumental in helping with RAF wartime technology and proceedures.

Richard Flagg
03-09-2009, 22:50
Taken from this website;
http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/latestnews/Fly-past-mark-50th-anniversary-Croydon-Airport/article-1308837-detail/article.html


By Neil Millard

neil.millard@essnmedia.co.uk

A fly past will mark the 50th anniversary of the closing of Croydon Airport this month.

The last plane to leave the aerodrome was a private flight which took off at 7.45pm on September 30, 1959.

Frank Anderson, chairman of the Croydon Airport Society, has revealed the anniversary will be marked on Sunday September 27 by a 12-plane fly past at 3pm which will include eight biplanes.

He added: "The last scheduled commercial flight left at about 6.15pm.

"We have 630 members of the society and I expect we will have a good crowd out there just to watch the fly by."

Croydon Airport, originally known as Croydon Aerodrome, opened on March 29, 1920 and initially operated routes to cities including Paris, Brussels and Berlin.

On September 19 and 20 Croydon Airport Visitor Centre will also be holding special open days.

For more information on both events go to www.croydonairport.org.uk

Chris Lowe
25-09-2009, 22:07
I can remember seeing a documentary about Croydon & they showed the interior of the control room & demonstrated how the string lines where used to pin point an aircraft's approximate position by triangulation, can any on else remember this & what the programme was?

ben1
14-11-2010, 16:12
Seeing that 1945 aerial photo of Croydon Airport prompts a question - When did the Belfast truss GS sheds get demolished?
They would have been just East of the Wallington - Purley road (which is little more than a smudge in the aerial pic - running North to south across the airfield.

A30yoyo
31-08-2012, 16:21
Britain from Above has a set showing the 'new' terminal and hangars ca.1928 with the old Plough Lane buildings under demolition in the foreground
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw025100?search=croydon%20&ref=44

Peter-S
18-04-2013, 23:20
I was Croydon way a couple of weekends back so went to look at the terminal buildings and what remains of the airfield

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Another Number
19-04-2013, 07:01
When I was last there, there was a Tiger Moth inside the terminal, what happened to it?

What was the TGI Fridays building originally used for?

A30yoyo
19-04-2013, 20:15
If I recall correctly the back part of it (facing the Heron) was the Airport Police Station/Gatehouse and is still called the 'Gatehouse'?

The Tiger was sold after the Landlord requested it be removed and it was trucked to Booker/High Wycombe in Oct 2010
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1255807/
I think the large HP42 model is being restored for display in the Control-Tower/Museum section

A30yoyo
21-12-2013, 20:41
In recent Britain from Above scans http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw026143 check side panel thumbnails for alternate views

Simonb
04-06-2014, 23:48
In recent Britain from Above scans http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw026143 check side panel thumbnails for alternate views
Is it true that there's still the remains of a Messerschmitt Bf110 buried deep in the bowels of the bourjois dit factory from when it was shot down on 15th Aug 1940? I've been doing a bit of research about this raid as I recently discovered that the crash site of the CO of the German Gruppe Erpro210 was shot down in my village.
I came across on the internet a vague suggestion that one of the 6 or so enemy aircraft downed that day came to grief in the factory and has remained there ever since as its too dangerous to the foundations to remove it. Possibly just an urban myth but in case someone knows a definitive answer.......

PETERTHEEATER
05-06-2014, 07:20
The 'Blitz then and Now' lists seven enemy planes downed following an attack on Croydon Airfield on 15 AUG 40.

BF110D serial 3338 crashed at Bletchinglye Farm, Catts Hill, Rotherham

BF110D serial 3374 crashed at Redhill Aerodrome

BF110D serial 3339 force landed at School Farm, Hooe

A BF110C-6 crashed at Broadbridge Farm, Smallfield, Horley

A BF110C-6 crashed at Ightham

BF110D serial 3341 force landed at Hawkhurst

Bf109E/4 crashed at Lightlands Frm, Frant

Simonb
05-06-2014, 09:37
The 'Blitz then and Now' lists seven enemy planes downed following an attack on Croydon Airfield on 15 AUG 40.

BF110D serial 3338 crashed at Bletchinglye Farm, Catts Hill, Rotherham

BF110D serial 3374 crashed at Redhill Aerodrome

BF110D serial 3339 force landed at School Farm, Hooe

A BF110C-6 crashed at Broadbridge Farm, Smallfield, Horley

A BF110C-6 crashed at Ightham

BF110D serial 3341 force landed at Hawkhurst

Bf109E/4 crashed at Lightlands Frm, Frant

Cheers, I really want to get a copy of that book but as its oop its was too expensive to buy at the moment (50+)
The 110 at Rotherfield (NOT Rotherham) (no. S9+AB) is the one that I have been researching as I live less than 2 miles frm the crash site.

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Piloted by the famous celebrity bomber pilot (Swiss born) Walter Rubensdorffer (a veteran of the Spanish Civil War). This raid on the 15th Aug was the first on "London" (I know Croydon is Surrey as I used to live there and watch a rather fine football team down the road but it was within Hitlers out of bounds London boundary). The intended target was RAF Kenley but the mixed Bf110 & bomb armed fighter bomber version Bf109's flew over England shrouded in early evening mist. Clearing it over Sevenoaks they discovered their Bf109 fighter escort had aborted. Seeing the airfield ahead they began their attack run without realising that they were attacking Croydon by mistake. Worse still 111 Sqn based there had scrambled and another Sqn was also nearby. The attack being low level meant the Hurricanes could engage quickly. Out of position most of the bombs and strafing damage was done to adjacent industrial buildings (Bourjois perfume factory etc.) No air-raid warning had sounded despite them being picked up on RDF so I assume it was thought that Croydon would not be attacked. Without having time to adopt the defensive circle formation the 110's were then effectively shot to pieces. The CO (Sqn Ldr Thompson) of 111 Sqn shooting up Rubensdorffers Bf110 so much with pieces flying off it and an engine o n fire that he assumed it was finished. At this time although it was in a bad way it wasn't finished and Rubensdorffer tried to make good his escape being chased by more hurricanes. Over his RT he reported that his Bordfunker rear gunner was dead and that he was on fire and needed assistance. Horst Marx in his bf109 flew alongside as they flew south over Edenbridge and Tunbridge Wells. He was also then set up on and shot down at Frant. Bailing out dangerously low he flagged down a Police Car heading towards smoke from a crash further on (Rubensdorffer). He explained to the police the message about his conversation with his CO.
Another Sqn 501 had joined the turkey shoot at this point and it appears that (PO Duckenfield) administered the coup de grace on Rubensdorffer. On fire, and flying so low as to have to lift to clear the Rotherfield church spire, with bullets tearing into rooftop tiles of nearby houses from the chasing hurricane he finally came to grief at Bletchinglye farm. The impact was violent with the aircraft impacting into a tree lined bank and then somersaulting into the field beyond and broken into pieces. Rubensdorffer if not dead prior to the crash was killed on impact. His body was interred in Tunbridge Wells cemeteary before being reinterred in the German War memorial cemetery at Cannock Chase Shrops. He was posthumously awarded the Knights Cross with Oak Leaves for his action. Interestingly if he had survived and made it back he might have been court martialled instead as he had gone against Hitlers Directive of not bombing London targets. This was the first raid that hit London in error and after another one in early September caused the RAF to respond by bombing Berlin and then the Luftwaffe to change their airfield bombing strategy to that of terror bombing London (the start of the blitz) which could well have been one of the contributing reasons they eventually lost the battle of Britain

vulcanb2
11-12-2014, 15:47
Seeing that 1945 aerial photo of Croydon Airport prompts a question - When did the Belfast truss GS sheds get demolished?
They would have been just East of the Wallington - Purley road (which is little more than a smudge in the aerial pic - running North to south across the airfield.

I have been looking at Croydon hangars' history and the Sutton Libraries books refer to the first WW1 Beddington airfield. As far as I can gather there was one pair of brick GS sheds plus a single, west of Plough Lane. After WW1 the facilities were added to on the east side of Plough Lane as a civil airport until work began in 1926 to build the more well-known terminal, hotel & the two large double Hangars A & B south of the terminal, opened in May 1928. The terminal building has had another floor added on the control tower side more recently, as has the hotel, the latter being spoiled by that, not in keeping with the original. Presumably the WW1 buildings, inc. the GS sheds, all went c1926-8. The WW1 National Aircraft factory No.1 was on the NE corner with Hangar C on the south side. Hangar D was added west of Hangar C in late 1930s(?).