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Sparky67
23-01-2010, 18:48
I have been looking into the history of RAF Seighford in Staffordshire. There are quite a few buildings left, including the tower and adjacent buildings...plus much of the tech area (which is now a trading estate) and parts of the runways

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4298152992_38e62854ce.jpg

What seems to be in short supply on the web are WW2 and later photographs - particularly aerial views. Where would be the best places to find those ?

Denis
23-01-2010, 19:18
After a quick google search, the 'Hollybush' public house in the village seems to have a large collection of photographs showing the airfield during its working life.
You could try there and tactfully ask if you could scan/copy the images they hold?

ianbache
23-01-2010, 20:45
Hi Sparky
have a look at the book "The military airfields of britain" Wales and West Midlands by Ken Delve,shows the ww2 layout of the site and the units that were stationed there,a good source of info,thats if you havnt allready seen or got it ,all the best
regards Ian

Sparky67
24-01-2010, 20:43
Thanks for the information on possible photo sources - will look out for the suggested books. Sounds like a good excuse for a pint or two as well !!

And thanks for the kind comments on the photo - below is another...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4301463236_7eaf3e3392_b.jpg

There are a few more buildings and a pill-box type structure I will be photographing over the next few months.

All the best,

Martin

Sparky67
25-01-2010, 19:10
Some photos of RAF Seighford taken in 2009. Will be adding more when I can.

RAF Seighford was built in 1943 as a satellite airfield for RAF Hixon and became a base for 30 OTU flying Wellingtons, and later for 23 Heavy Glider Conversion Unit. The training unit closed in 1947.

In 1956 Boulton Paul Aircraft acquired the airfield as a flight test centre. The Vickers 633 Tay-Viscount jet airliner was fitted with fly-by-wire controls and developed at Seighford. Then, in 1961, the airfield became home to Canberras and Lightnings, which assisted in the development of AI and other electronic systems. Boulton-Paul terminated its operations from Seighford and vacated the site in 1965. The airfield closed in 1966.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4298152992_abcf2f31d2_o.jpg

Met Office and Signals Block in foreground. Control Tower, Operations and Crew Briefing at rear.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4303611717_988d6ba92a_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4304359034_4df0605f54_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4304357122_ae48514f03_b.jpg


Now, the north side of the airfield - all grass - is operated by the Staffordshire Gliding Club, the south side by a 'driving experience' company who use the remains of one of the runways.

Over the main road the technical site is now a buzzing trading estate, with some of the original buildings still extant, albeit modified in some cases.

More to follow when I get time.

Martin
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Sparky67
26-01-2010, 02:11
Public access ?

The Staffordshire Gliding Club operate from the northern grass area so no public access to there, and the southern side is in use by an events organisation at times. The ex-tech site trading estate is open, certainly weekdays, and it's probably possible to wander around there to view the old hangars and other modified buildings, being aware of large vehicles, fork-lifts etc running around the site of course. Not done that myself, so can't say for certain. Although I can recommend the transport cafe.

From the side road opposite the trading estate a track leads down to the gliding clubhouse, and it is possible to view the watch office and other buildings from along there. I am a member of the club, so perhaps have better access to the airfield than non-members would.

The OS map shows public footpaths which run along part of the peri track, passing some dispersals, and across part of the airfield to the remains of a runway, stopping short of crossing the gliding field. Another FP runs through the bomb store.

Public access is shown HERE (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.823642070119085&lon=-2.200183868408203&gz=15&oz=8&gt=2)

HTH

ianbache
12-02-2010, 21:56
I know Sparky67 has this place under his wing,and without doubt, got these images but here goes

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/DSC01448.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/DSC01451.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/DSC01447.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/DSC01450.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/DSC01446.jpg

all the best Sparky67 on the research of this site place

cheers Ian

Able Mabel
14-02-2010, 16:08
Interesting to see the 3-bay MT shed as they are usually in four bays or possibly if short of room, 2-bay. Could it posibly be the N.F.E. store?
The roof line from this angle is a little deceptive ...

Are you able to idenfy the building in the THIRD photo ?
Thought it may have been a Dinghy shed but i dont believe they had a 'back door'

ianbache
14-02-2010, 19:57
Interesting to see the 3-bay MT shed as they are usually in four bays or possibly if short of room, 2-bay. Could it posibly be the N.F.E. store?
The roof line from this angle is a little deceptive ...

Are you able to idenfy the building in the THIRD photo ?
Thought it may have been a Dinghy shed but i dont believe they had a 'back door'

High Able
i think it is the N,F,E store possible 12411/41
the third photo not sure ,but it was it was next to the tower,

Paul Francis
14-02-2010, 20:30
NFE is correct

Able Mabel
13-03-2010, 18:03
Whist trawling for info on a certain Airspeed Oxford, this turned up , thought it would be related here ..
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.urbanassault.t83.net/communities/1/004/006/144/161/images/4525693259.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.urbanassault.t83.net/page/4525167061&usg=__LqgROhm4EiGV9Ag8KIE3BeIvL3E=&h=480&w=640&sz=128&hl=en&start=156&itbs=1&tbnid=S4CO6WvLpI4LLM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAirspeed%2BOxford%26start%3D144%26hl% 3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1

Sparky67
17-01-2011, 00:19
This is a view of RAF Seighford's technical site, looking across towards the airfield. The photo was taken in 2009. Although a lot of work has been carried out on the site some of the original buildings can still be made out. Without gaining access it's a bit difficult to judge what may be under those covered in steel cladding.

The area where the large warehouse lower left of centre is now held the WRAF accom, the fields at the bottom and on the right of the photo held the other various accommodation and messing sites.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5363618224_8ddfaffc2b_b.jpg

Sparky67
22-05-2011, 16:14
On the way back home from RAF Stafford, sorry, Beacon Barracks, decided to detour past what was RAF Seighford. Here are a few more photos of some of the remaining buildings at the airfield and industrial site, taken in May 2011.

On the airfield side of the B5405...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5746913796_7e2750e358_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5746355699_76babe510b_b.jpg

Nice to see some original glass still in the frames...!


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5746360477_7c58f5c162_b.jpg

This, I believe, was the Link Trainer building.


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5303/5746353781_7f1585340e_b.jpg

The closer building is shown on the plan as the Gas Defence Centre, the long building in the rear was the Squadron and Flight Offices.


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5224/5746347157_f11eea40ca_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/5746344069_1e195ff10b_b.jpg

Salt store, one of four buildings originally in this area (along with the works flight block, agricultural and general office and fitters, carpenters and mess room buildings).

Sparky67
22-05-2011, 16:26
And on the northern side of the road...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/5746345503_c7f13a0e90_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/5829908217_d6288c6d6a_b.jpg

This is the more easterly hangar - the one to the west of it has either been demolished and rebuilt or has been covered in green steel cladding. On the far right is the side of the WT and Ops Instructional Centre, shown from the other side below.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/5746350733_bde8f81099_b.jpg

WT and Ops Instructional Centre (the wrinkly tin-roofed building). From the plan is appears a simiilar building stood this side of the brick block as well - the shape of the brickwork on the RHS would seem to confirm that.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/5746898684_352de99c03_b.jpg

Ground Instructional Building


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5746906878_3e25522d24_b.jpg

Technical Latrine


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/5746342599_64065d1001_b.jpg

Ground Instructional Building

PETERTHEEATER
23-05-2011, 08:28
Nice images Sparky!

This is in the former Bomb Store but unidentified. Any ideas anyone? (Stanton Shelter remains?)

http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.82741994286166&lon=-2.1912923455238342&gz=19&oz=8&gt=1

Sparky67
23-05-2011, 10:02
Next time I am in the area I will walk the public footpath and bridleway over the site of the former bomb dump and will record what remains.

When winch launching to the west the gliding club's winch is parked on what was a fuel storage area HERE. (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.82564206597686&lon=-2.2103655338287353&gz=18&oz=10&gt=1)Not much remains above ground...

tigger
28-05-2011, 13:04
Welcome to AiX wildblood,

yes, the Battle Headquarters (Command Bunker) is around here:

http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.83095927332206&lon=-2.21274733543396&gz=19&oz=8&gt=1


DoB is incorrect (unless there are two BHQs). BHQ is on private land:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2253.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2277.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2273.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2256.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2270.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2271.jpg

tigger
28-05-2011, 13:05
Nice images Sparky!

This is in the former Bomb Store but unidentified. Any ideas anyone? (Stanton Shelter remains?)

http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.82741994286166&lon=-2.1912923455238342&gz=19&oz=8&gt=1


Looks to be the remains of a fusing shed:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2248.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2250.jpg

PETERTHEEATER
29-05-2011, 07:16
Yes it is tigger, thanks for following up.

I found an old map showing the Bomb Store layout and it is one of three Fuzing Points (usual). I missed the location of the other two in current satellite imagery because the bomb store road on which they were located is now under the adjacent Clanford Road!

tigger
29-05-2011, 07:58
Yes it is tigger, thanks for following up.

I found an old map showing the Bomb Store layout and it is one of three Fuzing Points (usual). I missed the location of the other two in current satellite imagery because the bomb store road on which they were located is now under the adjacent Clanford Road!

Is the map online? Clanford road utilises the peritrack and not the bomb store road. There was another track, no longer visible on the field (but visible in the wooded area), between Clanford road and the still visible shed track. The spectacle next the the visible track is now covered in manure and it's original access from the peritrack blocked with tree trunks but still helps to prove the route of Clanford road to be the peritrack.

I need to plan a propper visit to Seighford - this quick visit was really to view the BHQ but with time to photograph that one other spot!

PETERTHEEATER
29-05-2011, 08:12
Mmm! I will look again.

Anyway, look on the Old Maps site and type in Seighford. Zoom the loaded map and pan it until you are over the desired point then left click once. Then scroll through the offered maps in the left hand window to 1962/63 Post WW2 2500 scale map and click on it. Then you can choose 'Enhanced Zoom' in the main window. But, to see outside of the selected area, you have to go back to the initial map and left click the desired point again.

Looking on GE, traces of the BS road appear to be immediately alongside the current minor road.

tigger
29-05-2011, 08:40
Mmm! I will look again.

Anyway, look on the Old Maps site and type in Seighford. Zoom the loaded map and pan it until you are over the desired point then left click once. Then scroll through the offered maps in the left hand window to 1962/63 Post WW2 2500 scale map and click on it. Then you can choose 'Enhanced Zoom' in the main window. But, to see outside of the selected area, you have to go back to the initial map and left click the desired point again.

Looking on GE, traces of the BS road appear to be immediately alongside the current minor road.

The minor road doesn't utilise the full width of the peritrack and the rest is visible, though partially covered with grass, in places alongside. The map you refer to allows you to contstruct the line of the missing double track and would place it between Clanford Rd and the still extant one. The position of the marked spectacle also helps. It's also fairly clear on the current 1K25 map (which is easier for me to insert as they are on my PC!) though the spectacle isn't shown. The other tracks shown on the 1K25 clip are all still visible on the ground.

4767

Where the track forks to the fusing shed remains it is less distinct, at the other side of the shed even more obscured. The right fork remains quite distinct though I didn't take any other photos of the tracks..

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p267/trunktemp/Airfields/Seighford/DSC_2246.jpg

PETERTHEEATER
30-05-2011, 09:14
Thanks, it made sense to use the perimeter track for the post war vehicle road base. That scetion of BS road has been obliterated.

Sparky67
03-07-2011, 20:34
Found time to have another mooch around Seighford after an abortive trip to RAF Stafford, sorrry, Beacon Barracks. Here are another four mixed photos...


Small Arms Ammunition and Grenade Store HERE (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.83116658960222&lon=-2.1921342164240984&gz=19&oz=10&gt=1)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5317/5892445266_54da0ffb30_b.jpg


Crew Procedures Training building - either reclad or rebuilt !

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5075/5891878371_8c9c78fd3b_b.jpg


The surviving end of one of the runways (most easterly).

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6045/5892445366_e0f216ab3b_b.jpg


Track in northern part of bomb store. A substantial amount of the original tracks remain, much of it invisible in WTP and GE due to tree cover.
This section is about HERE (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.830677304268605&lon=-2.1922579407691955&gz=19&oz=10&gt=1)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5151/5897854411_496d1b1822_b.jpg

Richard Flagg
21-02-2012, 00:05
An aerial of Seighford. B & P Photo / AiX-ARG Archives

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/ALL%20OTHER%20PHOTOS/AiX-ARG%20Archives/scan0055-1.jpg

lisa
13-01-2014, 13:23
Hi all

Completely new to all this but have just uncovered my late fathers flying log book from his time at 30 OTU Seighford.

I have no idea how rare these documents are but it covers 40 flights in his role as air gunner in a Wellington in the period 20.7.44 to 10.8.44 and would be happy to scan some pages across to you if it helps build your history of the airfield

Sparky67
13-01-2014, 17:28
Hi all

I ... would be happy to scan some pages across to you if it helps build your history of the airfield

Hi Lisa,

Welcome to AIX.

I, for one, would be very interested to see those, and no doubt many other AIX members and visitors would too. I found my late father's WW2 flying training notebooks and logbook a couple of years ago and have copied some relevant pages onto AIX.

Thanks.

ianbache
13-01-2014, 22:24
Hi all

Completely new to all this but have just uncovered my late fathers flying log book from his time at 30 OTU Seighford.

I have no idea how rare these documents are but it covers 40 flights in his role as air gunner in a Wellington in the period 20.7.44 to 10.8.44 and would be happy to scan some pages across to you if it helps build your history of the airfield

Hi Lisa,
As Sparky67 has said it would great if you could , it would be another chapter of the airfield documented by somebody who actually served there.
Also a warm welcome to AIX,
Regards Ian

PETERTHEEATER
14-01-2014, 08:58
Welcome to AiX Lisa.

Your father's log book is not rare since all aircrew were obligated to maintain their own flying record but it is unique because it was his and his alone. I should be privileged to see a selection of his log book pages associated with RAF Seighford.