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Richard Flagg
26-03-2010, 18:42
From Nick Catford (Subbrit)


One of the two original WW2 chain home radar masts at Swingate (Dover) was demolished this week. That leaves only 6 still standing, the other one at Swingate, Dunkirk, Stoke Holy Cross, Great Bromley, Stenigot, Great Baddesley (resited from Canewdon). Only those at Great Bromley and Stenigot
still have arms.

Anyone have any photos of the Swingate site??

ianbache
26-03-2010, 19:34
From Nick Catford (Subbrit)



Anyone have any photos of the Swingate site??

High REF
This of the net, but there is many of the site inside on Flickr

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/Swingatechainhome.jpg

Richard Flagg
26-03-2010, 20:09
Thanks Ian.

I didn't realise that there were so few of the masts left. I wonder if any of them are preserved or listed?

Southend Spitfire
26-03-2010, 20:10
The Canewdon tower was relocated to Great Baddow in Chelmsford.

ianbache
26-03-2010, 20:42
Hi all
Another image of Swingate plus original plans

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/swingate-df-01.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii425/LLanbedr/swingate-plan.jpg

P Bellamy
26-03-2010, 22:19
A small set of photos on Flickr of the mast coming down HERE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/doverpast/sets/72157623559968787/).

TTFN,
PB

Carnaby
27-03-2010, 12:02
Colin Dobinson's new book mentions that the transmitter erections were always known as towers - not masts. Towers were self-supporting. Masts were slim parallel sided constructions which needed guy-ropes / wires.

Just a point of clarification.

Graham

PETERTHEEATER
28-03-2010, 07:42
I knew that. You never here about the Eiffel Mast:D

Trikeman
29-03-2010, 00:59
Another act of vandalism in Kent. The three radar masts at Dover, Swingate have long stood as a reminder of the Battle of Britain and those who lost their lives defending this country. They also served as a testament to the ingenuity of our scientists. What a shame then that one of those iconic symbols has now been demolished - quickly and unannounced. It's MOD land I guess, but surely some planning application must have been made? Well done MOD & KCC for desecrating a world famous landmark - you ought to be ashamed. Are the others safe?
Trikeman

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww221/trikeboy/Radar/IMG_5329.jpg

Arcade Al
29-03-2010, 01:47
I very much doubt that the County Council even knew anything about it. On it's own land, in lieu of listing or preservation order, the MOD apparently does exactly whatever it feels like.

EGDGZTCW
29-03-2010, 08:54
Probably being done before someone can slap a preservation order on them..............he said cynically :|

Richard Flagg
29-03-2010, 11:15
Probably being done before someone can slap a preservation order on them..............he said cynically :|

How often is this done though?? Far too often in my opinion..


Thanks for posting the photo trikeman, I hope the council can step in and do something

julian foynes
21-01-2012, 15:44
There have been no cantilevers/platforms on the Gt Bromley steel tower since 1975.
Your "Great Baddesley" is presumably Great Baddow?
However, I don't carp as the Sub.Brit website is first-rate.
I have quite a large collection of photos, site plans, photcopied Air Ministry reports, and maps, concerning Gt Bromley and Canewdon, and dating from 1938 to last year. I have toured both sites, shown round by owners.
I have been in touch with a onetime CH mechanic based at Swingate, and have plans of blocks, etc that seem to have originated from him, but I did find him dogmatically in error sometimes.

PETERTHEEATER
22-01-2012, 09:00
...........but I did find him dogmatically in error sometimes.

As a 'senior' I sympathise. One's memory plays tricks and one can be absolutely sure about a point because of being there at the time only to find out that you are completely wrong:) When analysed, you find frequently that you memory was right but it was a different location!

julian foynes
22-12-2012, 17:14
I was brought up near the former CH station at Great Bromley, my uncle was in the RAF Police at Bawdsey, and as a boy I twice went over from Dover on the ferry, near the Swingate site.
In 1956 there were 9 towers at GB (3 steel, 4 240' wooden, 2 120' Buried Reserve wooden)--2 wooden came down that year and other 4 in 1958.
In 1961 more or less all the towers were still up at Swingate and Bawdsey.
In c.1960 I also remember going past Poling in Sussex and seeing several towers there.

I was too young for cameras but none of the adults I knew ever took a photo of the towers. ...
So, does anyone have one? Surely there must be many of Dover/Swingate, what with all the ferry passengers?

Incidentally the Swingate station was known as "Dover" (AMES 04) during the Battle of Britain and Blitz--"Swingate" dates from later.

cliveh
21-10-2013, 14:16
Myself and a friend visited here on Saurday. With the heavy rain, mud & wind we must've been mad! :roll:

Anyway it was worth it all when we found the Receiver Building opened up. I think the farmer had been using it as a shelter for his animals!!

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cliveh

cliveh
21-10-2013, 14:28
The site has now been 'Listed'! :-D

A very detailed description can be found here:

http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1405534

And here:

http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1403955


cliveh

Arcade Al
21-10-2013, 15:49
The site has now been 'Listed'! :-D

A very detailed description can be found here:

http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1405534

And here:

http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1403955


cliveh

Excellent news, and not before time!

cliveh
21-10-2013, 16:14
There used to be four wooden towers on the Receiver Site which are now long gone but their huge concrete bases remain:

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cliveh