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Sparky67
27-07-2011, 12:39
During my working life I passed many times what I was told were the remains of an 'RAF Radar Station' on the Abdon Burf end of Brown Clee Hill in Shropshire. The building remains are HERE (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.47915907841346&lon=-2.5953081890721714&gz=20&oz=9&gt=1) and are constructed from what looked like pre-cast concrete and not the same materials as the buildings associated with the mining operations on the hill. Where they are situated overlooks the West Midlands area.

Not to be confused with the golf ball radars on Titterstone Clee Hill which is a distance away, or what OS call the Navigational Relay Station on the southern end of Brown Clee Hill HERE (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.45574497422028&lon=-2.5996696909773264&gz=16&oz=8&gt=1)

Can anyone confirm whether they are RAF and/or radar-related, are WW2-era - or what they were actually used for ?

Carnaby
27-07-2011, 13:04
I remember investigating a site 'somewhere in your area' a long time ago, as a result of a plan found in RAFM Hendon. It's in our archive as:

Camp Hill (Gee) 11172/62B

Remember driving up a hill to a modern comms station and being disappointed.

'Camp Hill' and 'RAF' produced nothing on Google.

I could be way off here, but it's a thought. Your link could be accommodation / messing for whatever was on that hill.

Sparky67
30-07-2011, 23:15
The old OS maps show a camp at Titterstone Clee where the radar station now is, and the web NGR references to the Eastern GEE chain indicate that a station was once at that site. The remains on Brown Clee hill are some miles away and would have been difficult to access from there I think, particularly in the winter.

Looking at the WTP image again there appears to be a man-made hillock opposite the hut - with maybe a track leading up and a parking area at the top. Could a mobile radar van have been parked there possibly - or should I be taking more of the tablets ? I feel a visit with a camera coming on when the weather's a bit better.

Sparky67
06-08-2011, 12:50
Had a walk over Brown Clee yesterday with my son and his dogs - ended up doing 15km - and took a few photos of the building in question. I know nothing about building construction what-so-ever, so would be interested in the views of those who do on whether this could have been part of an RAF Radar Station. What I thought was a 'man-made hillock' on the WTP view isn't such a well-defined hillock on the ground !


General View

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/6014349106_23e0a26fc2_b.jpg

This building is in a very exposed and isolated position, with a ~145 view to the east Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Coventry are on the horizon.

Closer views...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6007/6013801205_da91658b15_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/6013802753_be775ae763_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/6014349548_394ae5c068_b.jpg


and another building (or two) closer to the old mine workings building

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6132/6014384088_82786d7181_b.jpg


Your thoughts please ?

Sparky67
06-08-2011, 18:44
The GEE station is listed as being on a different Clee Hill Canberra - Titterstone Clee Hill. (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.39725851875322&lon=-2.592455377443819&gz=18&oz=8&gt=1)

The site in the photos is on Brown Clee Hill.

These remains ([URL="http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.47858844674007&lon=-2.5947096415446906&gz=20&oz=10&gt=1) are a hundred metres or so away from the building but may have been associated with the mine railway rather than WW2 - unless anyone knows different ! The photo was taken looking north.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/6015213916_84a8ee0e5a_b.jpg

When I first visited the radio station on this hill in the mid-70s the burnt remains of a Wellington were still visible close by, including a complete u/c leg with wheel sticking out of a pool.... I had difficulty yesterday locating the area where the most of the remains once were.

canberra
06-08-2011, 19:15
Damn and Id thought Id solved it! Maybe it is from the railway, would there have been a requirement for RADAR in this area in wwii?

Peter Kirk
07-08-2011, 10:45
The "naked" hut shows how the thing was put together quite well. No idea what type though.

Paul Francis
07-08-2011, 13:35
I can tell which it is not, BCF or Orlit but not sure what it is though.

Chris Lowe
26-01-2012, 14:12
Some nice photos of Brown Clee here http://www.simondenison.co.uk/8.html
That was a long railway incline going down that hill.
There seem to similar buildings for the mine on Clee Hill http://www.photobydjnorton.com/CleeHillIncline.html

tigger
13-06-2012, 20:33
Posts about Titterstone Clee Hill have been moved to their own thread:

http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?8753-Titterstone-Clee-Hill

Chris Lowe
13-06-2012, 20:55
Interesting quarry history in the Clee Hills as well.

mbale34
18-06-2012, 21:28
I can confirm that Clee Hill was a GEE radar transmitter station. It was still operational in 1953-4, when I was stationed there as a telephonist, in charge of the one-man PBX exchange. At times there were only two of us on strength, so we had to operate a 24-hour on-off shift system.
The picture of the concrete building ruins shows the admin block, which housed the telephone exchange next to the guard room on the extreme right of the building. On the far left were the CO's and adjutant's offices.
Malcolm.


The GEE station is listed as being on a different Clee Hill Canberra - Titterstone Clee Hill. (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.39725851875322&lon=-2.592455377443819&gz=18&oz=8&gt=1)

The site in the photos is on Brown Clee Hill.

These remains ([URL="http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.47858844674007&lon=-2.5947096415446906&gz=20&oz=10&gt=1) are a hundred metres or so away from the building but may have been associated with the mine railway rather than WW2 - unless anyone knows different ! The photo was taken looking north.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/6015213916_84a8ee0e5a_b.jpg

When I first visited the radio station on this hill in the mid-70s the burnt remains of a Wellington were still visible close by, including a complete u/c leg with wheel sticking out of a pool.... I had difficulty yesterday locating the area where the most of the remains once were.