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airfields man
05-08-2008, 21:27
Cheltenham
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airfields man
15-09-2010, 19:49
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This is No 3 Kings road, Cheltenham.

Paul Francis
15-09-2010, 20:01
I still think (assuming these are digital) that your macro is switched on! The first two are pin sharp.

airfields man
15-09-2010, 20:35
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This is the plaque to the first parachute jump. It's fixed to the Bandstand in Montpellier Gardens Cheltenham.

airfields man
15-09-2010, 21:04
With no adjustments between the first two and the third and fourth... all done on automatic....No reasonable explanation.!!!

PETERTHEEATER
16-09-2010, 05:39
That's odd! Image 2 is in focus and the other one is not!

Is this plaque claiming that the event was the first parachute jump ever?

EDIT: No, he was the first English parachutist

I find the time of fall of nearly 13 minutes to be questionable. How high did his balloon go or was his parachute more of a glider?

EDIT: The British Parachutist Association says his height was about 9000 feet (2743 metres) so his rate of fall averaged around 12 fps (3.2 mps). Quite slow!

Richard Flagg
16-09-2010, 09:33
I'd agree with that, the macro only works close up, from distance you need to select the auto funtion again. Technology hey!

Where abouts is the plaque in Cheltenham airfields man?

Carnaby
16-09-2010, 09:45
Where abouts is the plaque in Cheltenham airfields man?
It's at 3 Kings Road, here (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=kings+road+cheltenham&sll=52.803341,-1.111261&sspn=0.001249,0.004128&gl=uk&g=Wymeswold,+Loughborough,+Leicestershire,+United+ Kingdom&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=King%27s+Rd,+Cheltenham+GL52,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.898257,-2.062345&spn=0.000637,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=51.898211,-2.062223&panoid=LnDBSpeWLhIGhG6z5qZJLw&cbp=12,259.04,,0,6.93) as he stated REF :wink:.

Graham

Richard Flagg
16-09-2010, 09:47
where did he write that???

EDIT - I have just seen where!

airfields man
19-09-2010, 13:59
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Three more taken with a PROPER camera.

airfields man
19-09-2010, 14:05
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Two more of the Bandstand and plaque at Montpellier Gardens Cheltenham. Both taken with a normal camera.

Paul Francis
19-09-2010, 15:29
Again excellent pictures - crisp and sharp!

Paul Francis
19-09-2010, 15:31
I guess by now, the old SLR is your camera of choice? You cannot beat old negative film for rich colours.

PETERTHEEATER
20-09-2010, 09:16
Hey airfieldsman , you have almost cracked it! What did you do?

airfields man
20-09-2010, 18:57
Hey airfieldsman , you have almost cracked it! What did you do?

Well Peter, As I don't trust or really understand digital cameras I also took similar photographs with a proper normal camera. This being my 26 year old Pentax P30 SLR. Have you also seen the lovely clear photograph that I took of Brian Jones's house? Far better than the earlier dodgy-didgy one.!!

PETERTHEEATER
21-09-2010, 07:18
My ancient Topcon R3 SLR (1961) died on me when the mirror return spring broke. I was quoted a ludicrous price for repair so tried to get into it myself without success; so, digital it was but I now rely on my wife's little Pentax squint and squeeze which makes nice pix. The real value is in being to 'blanket' the subject and later pic the best images and delete the others. A simple free programme such as Picasa enables basic editing. Just wish they were around in my younger days.

airfields man
22-09-2010, 18:28
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Took these two today both are in focus though the Bandstand is again out of focus, but not as bad as last weeks and I haven't touched it since last thursday...spooky camera !! :o

canberra
22-09-2010, 20:08
Peter I think the reason the descent took so long was due to the fact that that the parachute was made of canvas and not silk. Silk lets the air through, canvas doesnt. But I may be wrong!

airfields man
23-09-2010, 17:59
What I don't undersrtand is... if in 1838 it was realised that a person could safely descend from the air with what may have been called a '' New fangled contraption '' then why didn't first world war pilots have parachutes 76 years or so later? Or am I wrong about that??

Denis
23-09-2010, 18:28
Oh dont worry Paul , parachutes were around!. I think it had to do with being 'seemingly unsportsmanlike' to bale from your aircraft!
Not the done thing old Chap:)

Oooh look! just two posts away from a thousand...what profound post can I make for my 1000th?

canberra
23-09-2010, 19:00
Oddly enough RFC balloon pilots had chutes.

Carnaby
23-09-2010, 19:33
Oddly enough RFC balloon pilots had chutes.
That's because they had space in the basket, and the balloons were excellent targets and easily shot down. Unfortunately there was a good chance the blazing balloon would land on top of you.

For a balloon with a difference see this (http://www.balloonlife.com/publications/balloon_life/9801/9804/upinsmoke.htm). I witnessed this at Bristol a decade or so ago - an amazing, unique and frightening sight.


It's not possible to overstate the excitement and crowd appeal of that moment. Part of it is the startling speed at which the whole thing rockets skyward.

Graham

canberra
23-09-2010, 20:53
So there wouldnt have been space in say an SE5a??? And lets not forget that German pilots had chutes.

airfields man
06-10-2010, 18:00
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This plaque is at Pittville House in Wellington Road, Cheltenham. Photographs taken 6-10-2010.

airfields man
06-10-2010, 18:04
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This plaque is at Beaumont House Shurdington Road, Cheltenham. Photographs taken 6-10-2010.

airfields man
06-10-2010, 18:20
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First one is Beaumont House. Last three are the home of Lt Col Richard Annesley West VC, DSO and BAR, MC [1878-1918] Born in Cheltenham and one of the most decorated VCs killed in action in first world war. That's what the plaque says but I couldn't get close enough due to the basement floor and no zoom lens. This is No 1 Oxford Street, Cheltenham. 6-10-2010.

airfields man
06-10-2010, 19:29
Whilst trying to find this plaque in Oxford Street I first discovered two others, one too an Architect the other an Explorer, both only a few yards away on either side of the above. But I didn't photograph any of these the same as I never the close-by plaque for the Highest Temperature Reading behind the Bandstand with the First Parachute Jump plaque in Montpellier Gardens. But if anyone would like to see these plaques I can always photograph them.

WiganMick59
07-10-2010, 00:23
Airfields man,

Capt A M Reid killed during the opening of the battle of Loos. Incidentally his headstone bore the CWGC RFC/RAF type badge, it was changed following a query in the 90's. The debt of honour at the CWGC still has him as being in the RFC although he died in service with the Northants. He did qualify as an early pilot ....no 336 issued by the Royal Flying Club Brooklands 22nd October 1912.

This was also the day my father, Jonathan was born, one of 6 brothers and 2 sisters. He lost a family member that day but he never had the chance to know him, he was killed on the same day.

cheers,



Mick

PETERTHEEATER
07-10-2010, 07:47
Hey, look at all the sharp photo's!

Thanks airfields man.

airfields man
07-10-2010, 18:22
Hey, look at all the sharp photo's!

Thanks airfields man.

I'm pleased that you like 'em Peter, between plaque locations I had to adjust the MF/AF switch I think this little task is going to be a regular occurance...as long as I don't forget.. otherwise blurred photographs again :roll:

PETERTHEEATER
08-10-2010, 07:27
Now you don't need to 'bracket' the subject by taking too many pictures. Your posts will have more attention if you just use a far shot (to identify the location) and a close shot to show the detail. Keep at it!

canberra
08-10-2010, 18:59
Do my eyes decieve me or is at least one of those of someone who retired to Cheltenham? I thought it was a myth that officers retired to Cheltenham!

And if you go to Winnipeg theres a street called Valour rd, it had 3 of its residents win the VC.

airfields man
09-10-2010, 13:50
Many thanks for that information Mick, shame that no RFC mention wasn't included on the plaque. Maybe one day it'll change as his headstone was....

airfields man
15-12-2010, 20:01
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Took these today in Cheltenham at the corner of College road and London road.

airfields man
15-12-2010, 20:29
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Took this today in Malvern road, Cheltenham.

airfields man
21-07-2011, 19:55
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This Bandstand, restored by the Cheltenham branch of the RAFA. [see plaque photograph] can be found infront of the Pump Room that's at the end of East Approach Drive which is off Albert road in the Pittville Park. Cleevemont.

airfields man
04-08-2011, 21:04
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I took these photographs yesterday 03-08-2011 in Suffolk square while searching for two other places that I couldn't find. Namely Roderic house and Bunwell house.

airfields man
07-09-2011, 17:05
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A few that I took today in the Spa Room at Cheltenham town hall today.

airfields man
07-09-2011, 17:22
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Without using a flash they were too dark, with a flash.....

airfields man
08-09-2011, 20:35
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A few of the statue of Gustav Holst that was unveiled in April 2008 at the Imperial gardens Cheltenham. Close to the Town Hall. Photographs taken 07-09-2011.

airfields man
08-09-2011, 20:42
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canberra
09-09-2011, 22:37
I see that he died in 1934, the same year as Elgar and Delius.

kebecker
11-09-2011, 03:32
have say that I Vow to Thee My Country still sends shivers up and down my spine, no matter how unPC that may be (yes I know it was not Holst's words!!

canberra
11-09-2011, 12:59
I have always thought that I vow to thee my country or Jerusalem should be the English national anthem.

airfields man
11-09-2011, 15:44
Didn't the Germans steal a British Hymn for their national anthem.

canberra
11-09-2011, 18:46
You mean Wondrous things of the are spoken Zion city of our God? Not sure who nicked it from whom. But I do remember singing it at our last assembly at junior school, as it was our last assembly a couple of us sung it with our right arms raised!

And as for Gloucestershire composers, Vaughan Williams was from Down Ampney which isnt far from Cheltenham and Elgar was from Worcester which also isnt that far from Cheltenham. Ive said that Down Ampney isnt far from Cheltenham, but I dont know Gloucestershire that well. No doubt if Im wrong one of you will point it out!

Carnaby
11-09-2011, 19:17
It seems the German and Austrian anthems were composed by Haydn who was impressed by the British national anthem. Later the German version became a British hymn.

airfields man
11-09-2011, 20:24
[QUOTE=canberra;83710]You mean Wondrous things of the are spoken Zion city of our God? Not sure who nicked it from whom.
Glorious things of thee are spoken, are the correct words, so I've just seen. I also posted-up [A year or-so ago ] a photograph of Elgar's statue that I took outside the Giffard Hotel in Worcester from 1991-2. Can't find it anywhere on here right now ! :roll:

canberra
12-09-2011, 17:30
Im not a Christian so I dont know many hymns!

Denis
12-09-2011, 18:58
Neither am I, but 'Jerusalem' still does it for me as something that is quintessentially English !

airfields man
12-09-2011, 20:35
Well said Denis, totally agree with that ! An excellent piece of music. :grin:

airfields man
25-04-2012, 18:32
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Took these today in the Regent Arcade Cheltenham. Not the easiest thing to do with all the reflections and people.

airfields man
25-04-2012, 18:40
This appropiately named shop almost opposite this model.
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Also this Jet Propelled looking fish.?

airfields man
02-05-2012, 18:40
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Took these today in the Montpellier Gardens.