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Jerry
17-07-2008, 11:57
Found some pictures that Jakob and I have taken over a few visits and after talking to REF yesterday I thought i'd post them, please forgive the lack of history, however i'll compile a proper report when I find the rest of our pics.

Have'nt really covered the entire area just skirted round it but besides the airfield theres also an old hospital just to the north in a wooded area.

Dispersal pan defenses as seen at Wellingore and many others:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1320.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1319.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1313.jpg

Across the road to the north, part of the dispersed sites, the WAAF site and the sick quaters now riding stables, stores and dereliction.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1096.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1328.jpg

Further into the woods, there was a few of these:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1329.jpg

A fire pool:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1330.jpg

And just for you Richard F:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliffe/DSCF1312.jpg

There is also a memorial on site, someone post pictures please?

The control tower and more buildings in the woods, a further trip is planned as this is the nearest to home for me.

Forgot to say, tried many times to contact the owner of the airfield on his home number, left several messages, no joy though, however a public footpath does cross areas of the site.

The owners of the riding school agreed for us to get photos at the time with permission to be granted upon a revisit.

stevie
21-07-2008, 02:55
...Well instead of digging out and posting my old pics of Kings Cliffe from about ten years go...(not that much has changed thankfully!) it seemed a much better idea to meet up with Jerry, his top little lad Jakob and his mate Matt and get some fresh new piccy's so thats exactly what we did. Some new pics here from a great day of airfield hunting! Kings Cliffe being the first port of call......

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370114.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370116.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370117.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370121.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370122.jpg

stevie
21-07-2008, 03:08
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370125.jpg

The old control tower stands in totall isolation.http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370126.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370133.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370135.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370127.jpg
View inside the old radio room.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370128.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370129.jpg
We were all pretty knackered after the mammoth walk to the tower but this manky old matress wasn't exactly inviting. Who the hell's been using THAT????
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370131.jpg
View from the balcony.

stevie
21-07-2008, 03:22
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370132.jpg

Access from the radio room to the roof.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370136.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370123.jpg
??????!!

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370124.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370137.jpg

A small, in fact very small section of runway here....It's hard to think that p51's, p38's and p47's of the U.S. third Air Force (as well as RAF Spitfires) used to thunder off from here as pretty much all the runways have dissapeared.

stevie
21-07-2008, 03:33
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370120.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL370134.jpg

....Just a couple more from me there. getting carried away as usual.sorry Jerry!!..I'll let you post a few now
:lol: ........

Jerry
23-07-2008, 10:54
You've just about covered every angle Stevie, however you did'nt get this shot:

The lads in action:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/DSCF4960.jpg

One of the bricks that is starting appear as the control tower crumbles, it's from the Phorpres brick works, in Fletton Peterborough:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/DSCF4963.jpg

We also saw loads of deer, that was nice!

(Photo to follow)

Many thanks to Steve, Jakob and my mate Matt for coming along, next time though, we need a compass, site plan, GPS and a couple bottles of drink? LOL

Jerry

Jerry
24-07-2008, 10:47
Phorpres was the name of the works in Fletton, Peterborough.

Most brick works pressed the name of the site into them also:

The trade-name Phorpres came about because Fletton Bricks are pressed twice in each direction so that they are literally 'four pressed' if the phrase is pronounced quickly it becomes Phorpres.

NJR
08-08-2008, 13:55
I've put this in the Wales and West Mids forum, which includes Northamptonshire.

Had a brief call here myself on Weds 6th Aug, 08.

Jerry we must meet up for a good trawl round here.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/ryan7480_bucket/NorthamptonshireWeds6thAug2008131.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/ryan7480_bucket/NorthamptonshireWeds6thAug2008132.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/ryan7480_bucket/NorthamptonshireWeds6thAug2008133.jpg

NJR

j4cko
06-09-2008, 13:47
Here are a few pictures from a visit spanner28 and myself made to Kings Cliffe a few months ago. We didnt make it round to the control tower and are keen to contact the land owner to see if a visit is possible, as it isnt on the Bridleway is it? Last time we went there was shooting taking place and didnt really want to be in the wrong place!

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Kingscliffe-16jan47.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Picture177.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Picture178-1.jpg
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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Picture194-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Picture195-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/spanner282006/Picture196.jpg

Inside the Battle HQ- Im going to go back now i have higher waders, it is flooded to around 3.5 feet. I love the picture of the door, with the top half still hanging from the hinge, but the bottom part has rotted away

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/djtjuk/kc1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/djtjuk/kc2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/djtjuk/kc3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/djtjuk/kc5.jpg

kebecker
19-10-2008, 19:23
sorry about the quality, but long since demolished

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n330/kebecker2/Pictureking.jpg

Paul Francis
11-12-2008, 17:52
I think the unidentified building is the sleeping shelter with some kind of airfield defence position on the roof. The internal walls are the ends of the bunks. The trunking is there to provide fresh air as there are no windows.

canberra
20-12-2008, 11:04
If Glen Miller gave his last "hangar" performance here on 3rd October 44 what was he doing unitl he left Twinwoods on December 15th???

Carnaby
21-12-2008, 00:16
If Glen Miller gave his last "hangar" performance here on 3rd October 44 what was he doing unitl he left Twinwoods on December 15th???
Queensbury All Services Club (Prince Edward Theatre, London W1, 13 concerts) , Abbey Road Studios (5 sessions), plus various other recordings, mainly in London.

Kingscliffe was indeed that last airfield concert.

Source - 'Next to a Letter from Home' and 'Glen Miller in Britain - Then and Now'.

Both books - excellent references.

Graham

Hawkeye001
29-12-2008, 20:22
Here are a small selection of pictures from Kings Cliffe taken this Sunday just gone.

Enjoy!!

Regards,

HawkEye001


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-25.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-24.jpg
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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-173.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-172.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-171.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-170.jpg
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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-97.jpg
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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-88.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-87.jpg
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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-39.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-38.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-37.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-34.jpg
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http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-28.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-5.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/Hawkeye001/RafWitteringBombStoresandRafKing-3.jpg

All comments welcome !!

Jerry
31-12-2008, 17:51
A few of mine from the 3 hour trek last week:

Inside the battle HQ, anyone have a deisel pump we could borrow?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF5969.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF5970.jpg

Unknown building looking slightly unsafe:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF5975.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF6021.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF6028.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF6037.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF5977.jpg

Pigeon man looks for his flock:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF5991.jpg

And of course, who could forget Anna, we did help her up (after we'd all got a picture and stopped laughing)

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF6012.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kings%20cliff%20dec%2029%202008/DSCF6016.jpg

airfields man
05-03-2009, 21:37
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/window0220.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/window0221.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/window0222.jpg

TommyUSA
09-03-2009, 18:02
Would someone familiar with RAF Kings Cliffe please let me know if the following Flashearth coordinates are correct:

Control Tower:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.568329&lon=-0.480844&z=15.9&r=0&src=msl

Memorial:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.571214&lon=-0.491921&z=17.3&r=0&src=msl

Some general questions:

Where is the battle HQ?

How does one get to the Glenn Miller hangar site? From the roadway close by to the east?

Regarding the nearby Bedford Purlieus: are there sites realted to the airfield within this wood that are accessible by the public?

Thanks!
TommyU

Arcade Al
09-03-2009, 19:00
Would someone familiar with RAF Kings Cliffe please let me know if the following Flashearth coordinates are correct:

Control Tower:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.568329&lon=-0.480844&z=15.9&r=0&src=msl
YES

Memorial:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.571214&lon=-0.491921&z=17.3&r=0&src=msl
YES

Some general questions:

Where is the battle HQ?
Here: http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.56196 ... =0&src=msl (http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.561961&lon=-0.48502&z=17.3&r=0&src=msl)

How does one get to the Glenn Miller hangar site? From the roadway close by to the east?
Pass, we wandered many miles - there is probably a quicker way!

Regarding the nearby Bedford Purlieus: are there sites realted to the airfield within this wood that are accessible by the public?
Pass

Thanks!
TommyU

As above in red :)

Mike
19-04-2009, 14:57
Visit on 18th April 2009

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000891.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000901.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000906.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000909.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000919.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000932.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000933.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000936.jpg

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/P1000939.jpg

stevie
27-04-2009, 03:20
Always great to make return visits to Kings Cliffe...so much so that i found myself visiting the place twice in one week this week!!!. Earlier in the week with Rich (REF) and yesterday with Wiganmick, Jerry and Jakob.
However i've never been there when the sun was setting so gorgeously over this amazing place as it was yesterday evening so heres a few piccies.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371964.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371952.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371957.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371898.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371910.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371897.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371894.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371896.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371959.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL371961.jpg

Cheers,
Steve

stevie
28-04-2009, 20:33
A couple of interesting links here for anybody interested in Kings Cliffe

http://www.thespace4.org/space4/heritag ... rbase.html (http://www.thespace4.org/space4/heritage/Kings-Cliffe-Airbase.html)


..and another here with some great bits on Kings Cliffe and some of Northants other airfields (Deenethorpe etc etc) Worth a look -

http://www.fieldsofvalour.co.uk/

Cheers,

Steve

stevie
28-04-2009, 23:19
Great photos Stevie - I am yet to sort mine out!!

Did you find anything of the dispersed sites?

Thanks Rich,

I'm really looking forward to seeing your photos from last wednesday mate. We couldn't have asked for better weather.

I did take a quick look at the communial site after i left you but didn't really have time to take any photos as i had to get back to Leicester. Was going to return there on the sunday visit just gone but it was getting a bit late after we got back to the car..(after another epic walk across the site!!). Looks like i'm going to have to make another visit pretty soon.

We did find a couple more of those mushroom pillboxes. The perimeter fence was actually re-routed to make way for one! Thats how close to the edge of the airfield it was.


Seems like theres still quite a few 'treasures' hidden away at Kings Cliffe. (What a difference a site plan makes!!! :wink:)

Cheers,
Steve

stevie
17-06-2009, 23:19
I was back up at King's Cliffe YET AGAIN this week. I don't know why i don't just move into the tower and live there to be honest.

A selection of pics from the communial site.
I'm pretty sure we must have got the entire site covered during the whole of this thread by now. (SURLEY!!!! :| )

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382753.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382750.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382757.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382754.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382751.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382755.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL382752.jpg

..and a few from...yes..yet another visit a few weeks ago. Theres something about King's Cliffe that keeps you coming back for more as you can probably tell!!!
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL372062.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL372063.jpg

All that remains of the bomb dump is the base -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL372068.jpg

...and finally the road that leads to and from the bomb dump site -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL372069.jpg

Steve
:)

PETERTHEEATER
19-06-2009, 09:21
Stevie,

Kings Cliffe did not have a Bomb Store since it was used mostly by fighter type aircraft. It had a number of Small Arms Ammuntion stores and Pyrotechnic Stores dotted around the airfield.

What is the location of your last two photographs?

Is the Battle Headquarters still standing?

Arcade Al
19-06-2009, 09:43
Is the Battle Headquarters still standing?

Yep - pics earlier in the thread.

stevie
19-06-2009, 14:09
Hi Peter -

It's down on one of the site plans of the airfield i have as a Bomb Dump.

A link here. Not much info but pretty much the same pictures i got -

http://www.fieldsofvalour.co.uk/KingsCl ... orth-1.htm (http://www.fieldsofvalour.co.uk/KingsCliffe/North/north-1.htm)

I'll post up the exact position later when i get a moment. It's situated on the other side of the King's Cliffe to Wansford road on your left as you head towards Wansford from the memorial. Just a little bit further up the road from there.

Steve

PETERTHEEATER
20-06-2009, 09:25
Is this it?

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.57483 ... =0&src=msa (http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.574833&lon=-0.488571&z=19.3&r=0&src=msa)

Possibly the location of around four stores for explosive ammunition such as 20mm and ground defence ammo. I will see what I can find.

P Bellamy
20-06-2009, 12:27
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/KCOS2.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/KCOS1.jpg

All the best,
PB

stevie
23-06-2009, 02:30
Bucc -
Providing the gamekeeper isn't out and about (he politely kicked me off just the once!!!!) then you should be fine to follow the old peri track (which is now pretty much just a dirt strip) all around the site. During my many visits here i've bumped into several farmers and the landlord and they have always been freindly and helpful once they have realised i had a genuine interest in the place. If i remember rightly one of the farmers gave myself and REF directions to the Glenn miller memorial. An old wartime aerial view or site plan will help though it has to be said as the place is quite overgrown in the summertime.

Just down the road at the old communial site the current owners who own the riding school and stables haven't got a problem with people looking at the buildings there either.

Looking forward to seeing some pics mate and happy exploring.

Steve
:)

TommyUSA
17-09-2009, 14:53
RAF Kings Cliffe site plan overlay for Google Earth:

Kings Cliffe (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1260479&#Post1260479)

Cheers,
Tommy

NJR
27-09-2009, 17:12
L-R. WiganMick59, bucaneer66, Stevie and CDP (back in action at last!) at the Glenn Miller memorial, Saturday 26th Sept 2009.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/ryan7480_bucket/Saturday26thSept2009112.jpg

NJR

buccaneer66
28-09-2009, 13:08
Chris

The Defence of Britain database has a listing for our mystery objects.

Description: 1997/04/30 Two concrete sewer pipes, upturned and placed side by side. They are both semi-sunken. The W pipe is half filled with water. The E pipe has a green painted metal gun mount in its base. Both pipes have a section of 'bar & rod' tracking in front of it, supported by a picket post, for camouflage.

stevie
28-09-2009, 14:33
A couple of pics of them here courtesy of NJR -

http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?p=31503

Jerry
29-09-2009, 13:27
Apethorpe Hall did I here, currently up for sale, English Heritage do tours:

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.10929

and a fantastic pub in the village too, The Kings Head.

buccaneer66
12-10-2009, 18:08
Stevie ,NJR, CDP & WiganMick inspecting a gun emplacement .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/CRL-Kingscliffe-0909-021.jpg

buccaneer66
13-10-2009, 17:29
Steve has qouted the entry from 'The Defence of Britain Database' there's several of these things at Kingscliffe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/CRL-Kingscliffe-0909-022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/CRL-Kingscliffe-0909-054.jpg

Danbuoy
17-10-2009, 13:38
OK, thought I'd add my info on King's Cliffe too, as I visited the airfield in April 2008. I had been working at a Barclays site in Peterborough for a few weeks, and on my last day there I was able to leave at 1pm to drive back up to Cheshire, so thought I'd make a detour to King's Cliffe as it was so close, and I'd wanted to visit it for a while. I got changed out of my suit into old jeans and trainers in the Barclays site car park, then set off. I parked up initially at the riding stables, had a look round for someone to ask for permission to take some photos, but finding the place deserted, I took my photos and left. I stopped briefly at the memorial, then continued a little further and found a closed gate. I reversed my car up to the gate, so it was totally off the road, got out and walked through the gap at the side. Straight away I found a fire pool, and could see the pillbox type fighter pens a short distance away. I had good look round for someone to speak to, but the only evidence of other people was sounds of game shooting in the woods at the back of the airfield site. I took a load of photos, found one of the mushroom pillboxes, and started following a track that was parallel to the road. Eventually the tower came into view, and still seeing no one about, took a deep breath and legged it across the field, to get right up to the tower. Took my photos and was just looking at the small building behind the tower when I heard a gunshot that sounded like it was fired right next to me. I totally jumped out of my skin, then heard another. Still seeing no one, I decided enough was enough and headed back to my car with my heart pounding! So, despite a sharp exit, I was fairly happy with my coverage, but would love to go back as still need to find the BHQ and the hangar site and Glenn Miller memorial, plus I'm sure there are other bits tucked away too. A very interesting site to explore. Tried to add some photos as an attachment but I think the file size is a bit big!

stevie
19-10-2009, 02:15
Great story Danbuoy. Thanks for posting it up mate.
I've had a bit of a 'scare' with the gamekeepers at King's as well . Although on most visits the only thing to alarm is the bird scarers and scarecrows to be honest.
It sounds to me like you turned off the path just before the Battle HQ came into view by the sounds of it. Anyway i'm planning another return probably in November when the undergrowth has cleared off as i've still got to have a proper look at the remains of the technical site so if you fancy meeting up let me know. Must admit i'm starting to know this place like the back of my hand now! Not suprising really considering the amount of times i've visited here :).

Cheers
Steve

woodster
06-12-2009, 22:20
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss234/woody_photo/06-12-2009211108kingscliffe.jpg found the above photo of king and queen at kings cliffe in 1943 and photo of same spot today,hope no copy rite infringment here!!

woodster
06-12-2009, 22:34
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss234/woody_photo/06-12-2009213015.jpghttp://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss234/woody_photo/06-12-2009212412.jpg my thanks to stevie for recent photos,hope thats ok mate?

stevie
07-12-2009, 16:28
Thats fine Woodster no problem at all mate. I love 'then and now' shots.

Those old photos were took on the 29th march 1943 when the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester visited the airfield.

Cheers,
Steve

Brothmark
02-01-2010, 01:48
One of the neatest war time Kings Cliffe photos I've seen at http://mighty8thaf.preller.us/gallery/20thFGKingsCliffeEnglandphotosfromvarioussourcespr ovidedby20thFighterWingAssociation/20FG_USAAF_Day_1_Aug_1945c
Brothmark

airfields man
02-01-2010, 20:33
I have the same photograph within a book that I bought from Quinton Bland at the post office in Grafton Underwood many years ago, the structure on the right side half-way up looks to me like a small cubicle raised up about 18 inches, could it possibly be a mobile loo?? Also the Mustang parked just the other side of the perimeter track coded MC-X is an early version model made into a two-seater

Jerry
03-01-2010, 23:40
During a couple of recent trips, I havr found a number of bottles that I believe date back to 1940's, with this in mind I ask this question:

Are there any bottle collectors on the forum?

I could do with some assistance with my finds.

Thanks in advance and i'll post some pictures later this week.

Jerry

Richard Flagg
24-02-2010, 22:23
Some interesting photos on this website;
http://www.airfieldsofww2.info

Enjoy

Denis
24-02-2010, 23:19
Interesting photos indeed. Someone put me right please as there seems to be quite a few of the Gymnasium marked up with different titles.
Either this or the airfield had several Gymnasiums built, but all serving different purposes.... which I dont believe for an instant.

So, whats the story?

stevie
25-02-2010, 00:54
Wow! and i thought our thread was pretty epic on the picture front here on AiX. Talk about leaving no stone uncovered. Great site thanks for posting it up Rich.

As far as i'm aware it's a Gymnasium, Chapel and Cinema all in the one building at King's Cliffe Dennis.

Cheers,
Steve
:)

Woody78
08-03-2010, 22:00
I visited the Glenn Miller memorial during the late autumn of 2009 on one of those clear and crisp days. Probably one of the most evocative memorials I have ever come across and that is no disrespect to any other memorial whether it be USAAF/RAF. It's hard to explain but everybody would have heard of this famous bandleader and given the mystery of his disappearance, makes a visit to the memorial a 'must see'.

The memorial is off the beaten track so invariably there will be no one else in sight and given it's isolation would suggest why it is in good order with the triangular inscription plates still intact. Long may this continue to be the case. It's sad to say that such a memorial would be a target if near public access. Is the memorial on private land?

TommyUSA
19-03-2010, 18:41
Formation photo of the 20th Fighter Group / 77th Fighter Squadron P-51s. Photo taken over Deenethorpe village with Deene Hall and the village of Deene beyond the lake. The A43 can be clearly seen and Dibbins Wood is in the SW of the photo.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww50/japercaper/77inflight.jpg




Later in the same flight. Can anyone place the photo?
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww50/japercaper/77inflight2.jpg




The Pilots of the 77th FS at Kings Cliffe:
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww50/japercaper/77thpilots1945.jpg


Enjoy,
Tommy

P Bellamy
19-03-2010, 21:23
Can anyone place the photo?
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww50/japercaper/77inflight2.jpg


This close enough? ;-)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Bain1.jpg

Bainton, 6 miles directly NE of Kings Cliffe airfield.

In other Kings Cliffe news, the row of 5 air-raid shelters that stood behind the bases of huts 36-43, just southwest of the control tower, have been removed within the last month.
My "man on the spot" tells me that they have been erased completely, with not even a piece of rubble to mark where they were.
A new roadway has been driven through the trees at the same spot.

TTFN,
PB

stevie
07-05-2010, 00:17
Heres a few pictures from the old Tech site. The only part of King's that i hadn't previously had a snoop over. Not a great deal to report to be honest. Many of the remaining buildings are little more than ruins. -

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385857.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385861.jpg

The MT section -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385863.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385862.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385865.jpg

The line of shrubs and trees mark where the main runway once was -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385869.jpg

Cheers,
Steve

Arcade Al
07-05-2010, 12:14
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/SL385865.jpg


Looks interesting... is this by the MT section?

Richard Flagg
07-05-2010, 14:57
The MT section is located here;
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.570054&lon=-0.474978&z=19.9&r=0&src=msl

Good pics, I must head back there sometime!

stevie
09-05-2010, 22:49
Is that the inspection pit in the MT shed?

I think it was Chris yes. It was situated inside one of the MT buildings.

Jerry
10-05-2010, 13:29
Stevie, If I recall your raised the question about the blister hanger at the riding stables, it is an original hanger from the site. This was confirmed by the owner. Thanks for raising the question.

Jerry
08-07-2010, 09:41
Last night was good, foxes, buzzards, red kites and an unknown aircraft, any ideas folks?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kcplane2.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/Gingie28/kcplane.jpg

The tower is still ok, however it concerns me slightly that the blister hanger bases have been removed along with the installation of a rough hard core road way leading from the blister hanger bases near to the green hanger and the Glenn Miller memorial through the trees all the way the the old KSR quarry, any ideas?

P Bellamy
08-07-2010, 14:00
1954-built Auster Mk9 (M) WZ711 is, or certainly was, based at Spanhoe.

Apparently the last AOP-9 delivered to the Army, she first appears on the civil register as G-AVHT in 1967, registered to a Michael Somerton-Rayner, The Officers' Mess, Middle Wallop.
This was later amended to Major Michael Somerton-Rayner, c/o Commandant, Army Historical Aircraft Flight, HQ School of Army Aviation, Middle Wallop, until the registration was cancelled in 2001.
Since then she has passed through the hands of a gentleman from Oundle until 2008 when she came to her current owner from Apethorpe.

All the best,
PB

airfields man
27-07-2010, 15:27
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics150.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics148.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics151.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics152.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics153.jpg
A few that I took 26-07-2010.

airfields man
27-07-2010, 15:33
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics154.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics155.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics161.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics157.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics158.jpg

airfields man
27-07-2010, 15:39
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics160.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics162.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics163.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics164.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/airfieldsman/PAULS%20SCANS%20TWO/Paulspics165.jpg
The last photograph was the Dentists Hut so I was told. :sad:

Hal_Chase
17-08-2010, 13:46
All been seen before I expect but here's a small handful from a recent visit

Airfield & Technical Site. Private Branch Exchange (Building 78 )
http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_27.JPG

Airfield & Technical Site. Control Tower for Night Fighter Stations (Building 79)
http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_30.JPG

Fighter Pen Stanton Shelter
http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_55.JPG

Airfield & Technical Site. Sub Station
http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_62.JPG

Airfield & Technical Site. Square 'Stanton' shelter
http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_19.JPG

Hal_Chase
17-08-2010, 13:51
Still flooded...:(

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_13.JPG

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_14.JPG

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_15.JPG

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_12.JPG

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_16.JPG

Paul Francis
18-08-2010, 17:02
Perhaps the most interesting picture there Hal, is the 'square stanton' which may not be a stanton at all but someting far more interesting. Only ever seen one other of these, at Burtonwood so its interesting to see another example. Wish I knew who manufactured these as they are a bit of a mystery but I like the description 'square Stanton' If I had known about this unofficial title I would have put it in the airfield defences book!

Hal_Chase
18-08-2010, 17:23
Perhaps the most interesting picture there Hal, is the 'square stanton' which may not be a stanton at all but someting far more interesting. Wish I knew who manufactured these as they are a bit of a mystery but I like the description 'square Stanton' If I had known about this unofficial title I would have put it in the airfield defences book!

Its only round the corner from my house so its no biggie to go back and see if there's any names to be seen in the moulding. I think there was more than one of these extant at KC too. Proper 'Concrete Cancer' going on with these fella's sadly.

Here's an external and a shot of the escape hatch from the same shelter

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_17.JPG

http://www.goatsurfer.com/images/urbex/Kings_Cliffe_Aug_2010_20.JPG

Paul Francis
18-08-2010, 17:45
Interesting that this one has had the earth mound removed as the one at Burtonwood was completely hidden beneath earth and in fact, it was a JCB that had disciovered it while clearing the area for re-development.

airfields man
18-08-2010, 21:16
Reports have reached me that the landowner is now turning down all requests for access to the airfield itself, due to too many people asking.
Will report back if I hear anything more on the matter, as this would mean no-one can visit the Miller memorial for example.

TTFN,
PB
I thought that the Miller memorial was along a public bridleway?? That's how I first learned of it's location by two people I know from around there that take their horses along that path.

P Bellamy
18-08-2010, 21:25
Good point,
Checking on the OS it's between a public bridleway and a public footpath.
Interestingly, the map also shows the pre-war bridlepath that was diverted to run along the western boundary of the airfield was never relocated to it's original position after the station closed.

All the best,
PB

stevie
15-02-2011, 16:50
Although it's a bit hard to see due to the undergrowth, you can clearly see the mushroom pillbox which is to the left of the BHQ as you view it in the link below -

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&q=kings+cliffe&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kings+Cliffe,+Peterborough,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.561989,-0.484884&spn=0.000352,0.001321&t=h&z=20

Happy exploring,
Steve
:)

Brothmark
13-03-2011, 16:49
Does anyone have a map of Kings Cliffe showing locations of the orderly room, O'Club, Officer's quarters etc?
Thanks

buccaneer66
03-07-2011, 20:04
I've been for a very long walk around the National Nature Reserve in Bedford Purlieus wood today & its absolutely full of hut bases & stanton shelters I also found 2 fire pools will post some pictures later when I've sorted them as there is one odd feature that puzzles me & I'm sure our experts here will quickly supply an answer.

I lost count of how many Stantons I found as there are so many most of them in very good condition.

I looked over Sites 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & part of the admin site & the sewage works.

This place needs a better look over in the winter.

Chris

buccaneer66
16-07-2011, 11:15
I finally sorted my dispersed site photo's so here you go.

Site 5

Stanton Shelters.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-009.jpg

Hut Bases

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-008.jpg

What is this circular concrete structure with a pit in the middle & iron ring set into it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-011.jpg

buccaneer66
16-07-2011, 11:19
Sewage Works Building.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-013.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-014.jpg


Site 4

Various Hut Bases & Stanton Shelters.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-017.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-018.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-019.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-021.jpg

buccaneer66
16-07-2011, 11:26
Admin Site

Firepool

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/firepool.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-029.jpg

Sites 1 & 2 Stantons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-034.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-035.jpg

Firepool

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-036.jpg

This place definitely needs a better explore in the winter when we can see things better.

buccaneer66
17-07-2011, 12:06
There are a number of these concrete highway boundary markers along the path beside site 5 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Buccaneer66/Airfields/RAF%20Kingscliffe/Kingcliffe%20Dispersed%20Sites/CRL-BedfordP-0711-003.jpg

P Bellamy
17-07-2011, 12:13
One of the few traces of the Huntingdon and Peterborough County Council, which was only in existence from 1965 to 1974.

Nomad20th
02-09-2011, 00:45
Hi all, Iím new to the forums, but long time fan of King's Cliffe going back to 1983. I was assigned to the 77th Tactical Fighter Squadron/20th Tactical Fighter Wing at RAF Upper Heyford and got involved with the vets of the unit from WW II. During Jan-Mar 1984 I photographed the entire Operations part of KC (not the tech sites). Sad to see so much has gone now. If you are interested i can post some of those shots. I returned to the field back in 2006 and spent two days doing detailed drawings of the control tower, to one day build an exact model. I was sorry to see the cannon test butt (photo attached) was gone and several of the 79th's all brick revetments. I was also amazed at how much the trees and brush have now obscured what remains compared to what it was like in the 80s. I also have a few B&W shots of the tower taken in the 1970s. I'm currently the historian for the 20th Fighter Wing now stationed at Shaw AFB South Carolina.
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Nomad20th
05-09-2011, 02:28
These shots are from the 55th FS Ops area. Origianly the Sq was flying out of RAF Wittering, due to lack of facilities at KC. But soon they built revetments and other structures for them and by May of 44 they moved to KC. They had to give up the nice brick central heated barracks fro the tarpaper ones at KC. Below is a key to the photos this one is shot #4 looking at building #127. the pilots are LtoR: Lt Harry Anderson (KIA 08.27.44), Lt Jim Burford, Lt H. Bynum (killed in a civilian airliner crash after the war); Capt Chris Pannel. Photo taken in 55th Sqdn area on Kings Cliffe airfield summer 1944. The building to their left is #115 with Bldg # 127 showing just behind the truck in the background. If you care to see any of the other photos for this area just let me know the # and what is is off. So #1 of #113 would be the head on photo #1 of Revetment 113.
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PETERTHEEATER
05-09-2011, 08:50
Thanks Nomad127, what was the function of Building 127? It still survives.

Also one of the 'E-Pens' (Building 112) had a defended wall position at the rear that can still be seen in Google Earth Street View.

stevie
05-09-2011, 10:52
Thanks Nomad127, what was the function of Building 127? It still survives.

Also one of the 'E-Pens' (Building 112) had a defended wall position at the rear that can still be seen in Google Earth Street View.


Fantastic photos Nomad127. Please keep them coming. Theyre great to see.
Building 127 is a sleeping block. I've had a nosey inside a few times. You can still see some bits of metal attatched to the wall where the bunk beds used to be fixed to. There's a couple more sleeping shelters surviving around the site as well as several more defended E-pens.
There's a rumour going around that the Control Tower will be demolished as the landowner thinks it may be unsafe. It's certainly seen better days i have to admit.

Steve
:)

Nomad20th
07-09-2011, 04:26
OK, all these shots are of revetment #112 in the 55 FS's area. Refer to the earlier map to see where they were shot from. NOTE: Photo "Roll #1 (008" and "55th revetment 112 (5)" are of the same spot taken 22 years apart (Aug 2006, the new shot).
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Nomad20th
08-09-2011, 20:44
This is the remainder of the revetment 112 photos.
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stevie
02-01-2012, 20:36
Spent a nice (and knackering!!) afternoon exploring all the hut bases and bits and pieces that have revealed themselves since the undergrowth has died back in the Communial/Dispersed sites this afternoon.Many thanks to Buccaneer 66 for the company.
Part 1 -

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012023.jpg
Below: Found this by some Barrack Block hut bases -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012050.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012036.jpg
There's quite a few old chimneys scattered around -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012029.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012048.jpg
Admin Site Buildings -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012021.jpg

stevie
02-01-2012, 20:44
Part 2 -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012018.jpg
More of the Admin Site Buildings -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012020.jpg
Steps leading up to what were guessing would have been an Ablutions Block -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012006.jpg
Below: Can anybody tell me what these Concrete blocks would have been? -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012025.jpg
It's amazing what's still hanging around amongst the leaves after all these years -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012043.jpg
As usual, there was lots and lots of porcelen toilet and sink remains scattered including this still attatched -
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r172/spinback/KingsCliffeRevisitedJan2nd2012030.jpg

A great afternoon of exploring and it was also great to see that the Tower is still standing over on the main airfield site. It's visible from the road this time of year.
Cheers
Steve
:-D

buccaneer66
02-01-2012, 21:47
There's 2 more of those pools surviving at Kingscliffe in the dispersed sites Denis plus countless hut bases & stanton shelters, we must have found getting on for 10 of those chimneys & what looked liked the remains of a stove, the woodland trust had also adapted a chimney flue into a bird feeder.

Richard Flagg
08-06-2012, 02:19
USAAF Day on 1 August 1945, believed to be at Kings Cliffe

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Flyer719/NORTHAMPTONSHIRE/Kings%20Cliffe/20FG_USAAF_Day_1_Aug_1945c.jpg

airfields man
08-06-2012, 14:22
Yes you are correct REF, this photograph was taken from the Control Tower at KingsCliffe on the date you mention. I have a double page spread of this in one of my books, it's a great picture. :grin:

P Bellamy
08-06-2012, 15:34
Nice trio of A-3 600 gal. fuel trailers (not A-1s as there is no powered pump unit on the fronts, A-3s were hand-cranked) beside the 1/4 ton Willys/Bantam trailer in the foreground, plus the runway heading boards previously discussed. :)

stevie
08-06-2012, 18:34
It appears in the Michael Gibson Aviation in Northamptonshire book as well. In fact it has been posted here on AiX once before somewhere but not in this thread for some reason.

airfields man
08-06-2012, 19:32
It appears in the Michael Gibson Aviation in Northamptonshire book as well. In fact it has been posted here on AiX once before somewhere but not in this thread for some reason.

That is the book I have stevie, I bought it from Quinton Bland at the Grafton Underwood post office about 1985. As you know it's a superb book, full of excellent photographs !! It cost me £8.50p :o which back then was a fair-amount, but I had to have it :roll: glad that I did :grin:

Dave Smith
08-06-2012, 20:49
There are several copies of Aviation in Northamptonshire available on abebooks.com from £17 up to £45. It's a superlative book and well worth getting while you can!

gary
22-06-2012, 15:37
This close enough? ;-)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Bain1.jpg

Bainton, 6 miles directly NE of Kings Cliffe airfield.

In other Kings Cliffe news, the row of 5 air-raid shelters that stood behind the bases of huts 36-43, just southwest of the control tower, have been removed within the last month.
My "man on the spot" tells me that they have been erased completely, with not even a piece of rubble to mark where they were.
A new roadway has been driven through the trees at the same spot.

TTFN,
PB
You are correct in your photograph that is indeed bainton,I live in Ashton and I can see my house about one inch below the fighter on the far right

Chief
06-11-2012, 23:02
Does anyone have a base plan for KC as the old link doesn't seem to work anymore?

Also can anyone PM me a any contact details or names for the land owner/s?

Carnaby
07-11-2012, 00:08
This station shares its problem with Church Stanton. The village is Kings Cliffe, but the Air Ministry name is Kingscliffe.

Richard Flagg
07-11-2012, 09:03
Does anyone have a base plan for KC as the old link doesn't seem to work anymore?

Also can anyone PM me a any contact details or names for the land owner/s?

Hi Chief, welcome to the forum.

I don't have landowner details and I'm not sure what access is like now, its three years since I went. Usually a bit of door knowking at the nearby farms will work.

Cheers

Rich

Chief
07-11-2012, 19:54
Thanks Rich, i'm not far away so i will make some enquiries...

buccaneer66
07-11-2012, 20:17
I have a plan but it's too big to copy.

PETERTHEEATER
12-11-2012, 06:11
One way is to tack it onto a flat wall, in good light, and photograph it (digital) using a tripod or camera on firm support.

stevie
09-03-2013, 12:27
I was pleased to see the tower is still standing when I passed here last week. Hopefully those alterations to the site that the farmer was carrying out are now finished.

Mike
25-08-2013, 19:33
Does anyone have any idea what this is? It was found on the airfield many years ago.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/IMG-20130825-00327.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/IMG-20130825-00327.jpg.html)

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/IMG-20130825-00326.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/IMG-20130825-00326.jpg.html)

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/IMG-20130825-00325.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/IMG-20130825-00325.jpg.html)

P Bellamy
25-08-2013, 19:41
See if you can find a part number on it somewhere and I'll check the relevant books.

Mike
25-08-2013, 19:52
Hi Paul,

No sign of any markings on it at all. If you want a closer look it is on display tomorrow afternoon at King's Cliffe village hall as part of the 70th anniversary of the 20th FG's arrival event.

Mike

P Bellamy
25-08-2013, 20:01
Righto Mike, I'll do my best to pop over just after midday with a good magnifying glass... :)

Mike
25-08-2013, 20:06
The Hall opens at 1:00 so don't be too keen! I could possibly meet you a bit earlier if that helps?

P Bellamy
25-08-2013, 20:15
1ish will be just fine Mike.

I'll see if there's any suitable Kingscliffe bumf in the Divisional Archives I can print off for you before I get there too.

Mike
25-08-2013, 20:42
That would be great. See you then.

T-21
26-08-2013, 08:54
Can anybody who knows about the 20thFG give me assistance as to where each squadron used which living site i.e 77FS site 6 something like this. Many thanks.

Arcade Al
29-12-2013, 23:12
Mike Murray reports that a bollard in front of the memorial has been knocked over, resulting in a couple of the slabs next to it being pushed up. Another bollard is also missing.
Photos to follow hopefully.

Mike
05-01-2014, 01:35
Hi,

I have just launched a website about the 20th Fighter Group who were based at King's Cliffe from August 1943 to October 1945. Please feel free to have a look. Any comments are welcomed as are any images or other information that would add to the site. There isn't a huge amount on the site currently but I am adding to it as and when I get the chance.

Website: www.20thfightergroup.com

Cheers,

Mike

stevie
05-01-2014, 09:44
Excellent Mike, looks great so far. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the AiX link as well.

Steve
:)

horrocks
05-01-2014, 14:17
A matter that has been bugging me for years - are the concrete runways at Kings Cliffe actually lifted, or are they just overgrown? Their courses remain clear and distinct from the cultivated areas each side on aerial views..

stevie
05-01-2014, 14:41
A matter that has been bugging me for years - are the concrete runways at Kings Cliffe actually lifted, or are they just overgrown? Their courses remain clear and distinct from the cultivated areas each side on aerial views..

They have been removed along with all the peri track.

Northern aviator
05-01-2014, 22:32
Hi,

I have just launched a website about the 20th Fighter Group who were based at King's Cliffe from August 1943 to October 1945. Please feel free to have a look. Any comments are welcomed as are any images or other information that would add to the site. There isn't a huge amount on the site currently but I am adding to it as and when I get the chance.

Website: www.20thfightergroup.com

Cheers,

Mike


Does Bernard Howard and his brother via the Kingscliffe RBL still have any input regard the memorial on the airfield ?

NA

Jerry
06-01-2014, 11:16
Bernard sadly died in November 2012.

http://www.parklogistics.co.uk/29229/haulier-bernard-howard-of-pc-howard-dies-aged-75

As far as input from the family is concerned I'm unsure, perhaps Mike can help further on this?

lWith reference to the runways there is still a small area of runway left:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.566274&lon=-0.486212&z=18.6&r=0&src=ms

stevie
06-01-2014, 13:40
lWith reference to the runways there is still a small area of runway left:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.566274&lon=-0.486212&z=18.6&r=0&src=ms

I've got a couple of photographs I took of that tiny bit of runway. I'll dig'em out when I get a chance.

airfields man
06-01-2014, 14:08
Sorry to hear about Bernard. We spoke on the phone about the airfield and memorial many years ago. I have a newspaper cutting that he sent me about the memorial being damaged. The Spitfire wing was smashed off by some sick head. RIP Mr Howard.

Northern aviator
06-01-2014, 23:39
Bernard sadly died in November 2012.

http://www.parklogistics.co.uk/29229/haulier-bernard-howard-of-pc-howard-dies-aged-75

As far as input from the family is concerned I'm unsure, perhaps Mike can help further on this?

lWith reference to the runways there is still a small area of runway left:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.566274&lon=-0.486212&z=18.6&r=0&src=ms

Sorry to hear Bernard has left us. Spoke to him some years ago when doing some research at Kingscliffe, and I got to hear what life was like for a young boy who had the USAAF on his doorstep, and the things he used to get up too LoL

NA

romro bravo
07-01-2014, 14:13
[QUOTE=Jerry;138363]Bernard sadly died in November 2012.

http://www.parklogistics.co.uk/29229/haulier-bernard-howard-of-pc-howard-dies-aged-75


Yes, my uncle died in Nov 12. He put his heart into the commemoration of the airfield, in his own inimitable fashion; upsetting some in the process. He later put his weight behind commemorating the Berlin Airlift along with his wife Janet.

NA - which brother are you talking about??

Northern aviator
08-01-2014, 06:57
[QUOTE=Jerry;138363]Bernard sadly died in November 2012.

http://www.parklogistics.co.uk/29229/haulier-bernard-howard-of-pc-howard-dies-aged-75


Yes, my uncle died in Nov 12. He put his heart into the commemoration of the airfield, in his own inimitable fashion; upsetting some in the process. He later put his weight behind commemorating the Berlin Airlift along with his wife Janet.

NA - which brother are you talking about??

Will pm you tonight around 6pm when I get in from work with the details as to what was said by Uncle Bernard. Tried to send it last light but it kept logging me out, so will try again tonight.

NA

Mike
08-02-2014, 13:35
I have uploaded lots of wartime images of King's Cliffe airfield onto the Gallery section of The 20th Fighter Group Project website. Feel free to have a look;

http://www.20thfightergroup.com/raf-kings-cliffe-then-and-now-gallery.html

Mike

Arcade Al
08-02-2014, 18:34
Looking through those is going to keep me busy for a while when I'm back on the PC... Thanks Mike.
:)

airfields man
08-02-2014, 21:43
Thanks for uploading those photographs Mike, I've just gone through the whole lot :-D Very good indeed. I have on video tape the dedication of the memorial that I recorded off the television, Central News at that time, 1983.

Mike
22-02-2014, 19:43
A little taster of the images on my website. Photo is from R. Frey via David Knights.

This is the 55th Fighter Squadron area, this picture was taken from the top of the Western hangar looking West towards the fighter pens. King's Cliffe village is in the distance at the bottom of the hill. The Kings Cliffe to Wansford Road is parallel to the right of this image.

Website is here: http://www.20thfightergroup.com/

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/1050260_orig.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/1050260_orig.jpg.html)

Mike
22-02-2014, 20:07
And here is the above image merged with another from my collection to give an overview of the 55th Fighter Squadron area.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/55thArea.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/55thArea.jpg.html)

stevie
27-02-2014, 10:00
The website is brilliant Mike. Well done & keep up the good work. The gallery sections are amazing & one of the best I've seen on an airfield related website. Thank god the Americans where so keen on photographing everything!!. It's been a real treat looking through it all as I've always had a big interest in King's Cliffe & this has brought all to life.

Cheers,
Steve
:grin:

Mike
28-02-2014, 12:38
The website is brilliant Mike. Well done & keep up the good work. The gallery sections are amazing & one of the best I've seen on an airfield related website. Thank god the Americans where so keen on photographing everything!!. It's been a real treat looking through it all as I've always had a big interest in King's Cliffe & this has brought all to life.

Cheers,
Steve
:grin:

Hi Steve,

I'm glad you like it.

The website is the result of a lot of work by myself and others. Arthur Sevigny who is the 20th TFW historian has spent a huge amount of time copying documents from various archives in the USA which he has kindly made available to me. That is where the bulk of the material on the website is coming from. David Knights, John Measures and Ray Corby from The 20th Fighter Group Historical Group have also been incredibly helpful and encouraging. It takes a while to sort and upload material but I am slowly getting to grips with it. I only have another 304 missions to upload along with lots more images, Encounter Reports, Evasion Reports and Missing Aircrew Reports!

Cheers,

Mike

Mike
03-03-2014, 21:48
It would appear that T/Sgt. Meacham, who was at King's Cliffe in April 1945, was a rather inventive chap!

Here we have his tyre changing device;

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/TSgtMeachamwtirechangeinventionApr1945.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/TSgtMeachamwtirechangeinventionApr1945.jpg.html)

And here is his mobile aluminium repair invention;

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/TSgtMeachamMobilealuminumrepairinventionApr1945.jp g (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/TSgtMeachamMobilealuminumrepairinventionApr1945.jp g.html)

"Necessity is the mother of invention"

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

WiganMick59
04-03-2014, 04:00
Hi Mike,

Brilliant work. Really enjoyed looking at your website and the pictures. :-)

Mick

Bomber
04-03-2014, 21:38
Hi again from Bomber . What fantastic web site absolutely out of this world .
I agree with Steve if only the RAF could have done the same we would have a lot more pictorial history to show . unfortunately the British were more security minded about taking photos on airfields than the Americans .
Regards ,
Bomber . :o

Mike
05-04-2014, 12:30
Engine maintence on a 77th Fighter Squadron P-38 in one of the Blister Hangars at King's Cliffe.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/290b.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/290b.jpg.html)

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

stevie
05-04-2014, 19:02
Excellent stuff Mike. Keep'em coming.

Steve
:grin:

Mike
05-04-2014, 20:22
I have obtained special permission from AIX to post a link to Facebook! I know this doesn't normally happen but there is a reason for it. I have just added a film recorded at King's Cliffe and other places in early 1945 by Capt Edwin 'Chet' Jennings, a pilot with the 77th Fighter Squadron, to the Facebook group for the 20th Fighter Group Project. This is the link;

https://www.facebook.com/groups/248605168641868/

You will need to join the Group which is a simple matter of clicking the join group button! Once you are accepted you can watch the 14 minute film.

Hope you enjoy it!

Cheers,

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

stevie
05-04-2014, 21:06
Mike, I absolutely detest Faceache with a complete & utter passion & won't touch it with a million foot barge pole. I don't suppose there's any chance you can upload the film onto your website or on here is there? Would really love to see it but have sworn never to join facebook again. No problem if not though mate. I'll just have to use someone else's FB account instead.

Cheers
Steve
:-)

Mike
05-04-2014, 22:03
Mike, I absolutely detest Faceache with a complete & utter passion & won't touch it with a million foot barge pole. I don't suppose there's any chance you can upload the film onto your website or on here is there? Would really love to see it but have sworn never to join facebook again. No problem if not though mate. I'll just have to use someone else's FB account instead.

Cheers
Steve
:-)

Hi Steve,

It's a huge file so I can't upload it onto here and I can't put video onto the website without upgrading and paying for it. If you can't watch it through someone else account let me know and I'll see if I can think of another way of getting it to you.

Mike

buccaneer66
05-04-2014, 22:05
There are quite a few on here who don't use faceache at all.

Mike
05-04-2014, 22:06
Steve, there are a few of us who get together in Wansford now and again for a few drinks and 20th related discussion. I'll let you know when we are next meeting, you could come along and I'll bring the film and my laptop.

What do you think?

Mike

stevie
05-04-2014, 22:09
Steve, there are a few of us who get together in Wansford now and again for a few drinks and 20th related discussion. I'll let you know when we are next meeting, you could come along and I'll bring the film and my laptop.

What do you think?

Mike


That would be great. I'd really appreciate that. Thanks mate.

Richard Flagg
06-04-2014, 00:14
Hi Steve,

It's a huge file so I can't upload it onto here and I can't put video onto the website without upgrading and paying for it. If you can't watch it through someone else account let me know and I'll see if I can think of another way of getting it to you.

Mike

I always upload to youtube, if its a big file I let it upload overnight. Might be an option.

Arcade Al
06-04-2014, 10:41
I always upload to youtube, if its a big file I let it upload overnight. Might be an option.

That was my original suggestion too Richard. It would seem like the most advantageous solution all round.

Mike
07-04-2014, 19:27
I've added a new gallery of crashes and accidents to the website.

It can be found here;

http://www.20thfightergroup.com/accidents-and-crashes-gallery.html

Thanks for all your continued interest!

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

stevie
08-04-2014, 08:34
Another fantastic set of photographs Mike. These ones are very sad to view but you're galleries & website really do cover the whole story of life at King's. Excellent stuff.

Steve
:)

Mike
08-04-2014, 19:40
This is the Haycock Hotel in Wansford, a wartime haunt for personnel of the 20th Fighter Group.

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/981.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/981.jpg.html)

They liked it so much they even named a P-38 after it!

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/mikermurray/982a_LC-Z.jpg (http://s381.photobucket.com/user/mikermurray/media/982a_LC-Z.jpg.html)

Along with several like minded individuals I will be sat in the bar at the Haycock Hotel from 20:00 on Friday 26th April. Please do feel free to come along and join us!

Cheers,

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

buccaneer66
08-04-2014, 20:01
I may take you up on that Mike it's not far for me from Corby.

Mike
09-04-2014, 10:25
I have created a 20th Fighter Group Project YouTube channel onto which I will be uploading the films I have taken by personnel of the 20th Fighter Group both at King's Cliffe and various other locations. There are some excellent scenes from around King's Cliffe spread across the films. I hope to upload all of the films over the next few weeks, so do check back form time to time!

The YouTube channel can be found here;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC07wOExrUZ_aRdFZekE2Luw/videos

Thanks,

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

stevie
09-04-2014, 11:26
Mike, you are a STAR :grin:. The channels already saved into my favourites. Can't wait to see them when theyre posted up.

Cheers,
Steve
:)

Mike
09-04-2014, 14:08
Mike, you are a STAR :grin:. The channels already saved into my favourites. Can't wait to see them when theyre posted up.

Cheers,
Steve
:)

Hi Steve,

Are you going to come along to Wansford on the 26th?

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

Mike
10-04-2014, 20:41
The Capt. Jennings Film is now online. It can be watched on the website, along with all the other films, here:

http://www.20thfightergroup.com/films.html

It is Film 08.

It can also be watched on the 20th Fighter Group Projects YouTube Channel which can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC07wOExrUZ_aRdFZekE2Luw/videos

Hope you enjoy the show!

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com

stevie
11-04-2014, 08:21
Hi Steve,

Are you going to come along to Wansford on the 26th?

Mike
www.20thfightergroup.com (http://www.20thfightergroup.com)

Week nights are tricky for me right now as I work a late shift unfortunatley so I wont be able to make it mate. Do appreciate the offer though (Friday's the 25th btw).

Just been viewing the film footage. I was a very happy viewer :). I've waited a long time to see ANY film of King's Cliffe 'in action' so It's really has been absolutely brilliant to view. I was trying to get my bearings & work out which fighter pen it was in the colour footage to see if it's one of the surviving ones. Couldn't tell for sure. Thanks for uploading them Mike, It's been a real treat viewing them.

Cheers
Steve
:grin:

PETERTHEEATER
11-04-2014, 08:36
Overgrown Fighter Pen here stevie:

http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=52.566647&lon=-0.482086&lz=14&rz=20&lt=Old%2025K&rt=satellite&lov=None&rov=None&lgrat=None&rgrat=None

buccaneer66
11-04-2014, 12:04
Mike

Has the landowner seen these videos?