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    Default Re: FIDO installations

    That's Numbers 18, 23 and 24 for the non Latin speakers

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    I had the opportunity to ask a panel of Bomber Command veterans at Elvington last year about FIDO.

    I asked what their experience of it was. One ex-pilot said that it was like a normal landing, a bit more bumpy, and that the technique was to approach 10-15kts faster than normal

    It wasn't clear wether this was based on personal experience, or simply the training/advice given at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnaby View Post
    Twenty-five sited were listed as locations for possible FIDO installations
    Source? I've never found a definitive source that says there were twenty-five, just an inference because one was numbered XXV

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    Does anyone know the names of Stations XVIII, XXIII and XXIV? (Needed for a future AR article).
    Were 23 and 24 actually allocated?

    How many mobile units were there? Could these have had the 'missing' numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger View Post
    Source? I've never found a definitive source that says there were twenty-five, just an inference because one was numbered XXV

    Were 23 and 24 actually allocated?
    Possibly not, though it seems a bit unlikely that they jumped from 22 (Tuddenham) to 25 (Epinoy). The others (18 excepted) are all in 'Williams'. I note that there are approx 150 aviation fog dispersal related documents in TNA. Which one has the answer?

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    8th AF, 1st Air Division daily records, 14th April 1945:

    It was announced that "Fido" marker burners were to be installed at all stations of the First Division.

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    That's interesting. Hard to imagine the intention was ever carried out though. By the 3rd week of May, the Bomber Groups had started moving out and by mid-July the 8th AF was re-established on Okinawa


    the Bomber Groups had started moving back to the US and on July 16th, the 8th Air Force was re-established on Okinawa
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    Heres a image from Graveley FIDO pump house, depicting the Sultza pumps used to pump the fuel to the runway,



    IWM CH 15275

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    Regards the 1959 Marham FIDO trial installation, I've done a quick comparison of the layout drawing given in the Flight article (Black for FIDO burner lines, red for the funnel and yellow for the lighting bars) compared with some visible cropmarks in GE (blue):



    The "box" cropmark at the approach end is very similar to that on the Heathrow FIDO installation.

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    I recently posted this YouTube clip on the Bradwell thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIjxaJ2_Ag

    The overhead footage is definitely Bradwell (you can see my house).

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    8AF 1st Air Division
    Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations

    Weekly report for week ending 5th March 1945
    Flying Control Section

    1: Major Donovan and S/L Bompas attended experimental demonstrations of gasoline-burning fog-dispersal (FIDO) equipment on two Continental airfields Thesday and Wednesday. At one of these fields they witnessed a demonstration of the new American Ground Controlled Approach equipment, run by RAF personnel.
    At Airfield A-75 (Cambrai/Epinoy, France. Emergency strip. PB) where the GCA equipment was demonstrated, a trial of so-called portable FIDO equipment was held. This equipment proved to be a somewhat inferior modification fo the permanent FIDO installations at certain RAF airfields in the UK.

    Airstrips A-75 and A-74 (Cambrai/Niergnies, France. PB) were both testing small approach-lane gasoline-burning markers, but were found to be less advanced in their development of the equipment that is Kimbolton in its experiments along the same line.

    9: Flying Control at Station 117 (Kimbolton. PB) has arrived at what is believed to be the best basic unit of layout for portable gasoline-burning approach-lane markers. Four 36-foot long pipes are laid out so that they converge to form an arrow at one end. This end points toward the runway, and the vapourizers on all four pipes are positioned so as to give the greatest intensity of light at this point. Major Donovan and S/L Bompas viewed it from the air and deemed this layout quite satisfactory in that it shows both direction and gives the maximum concentration of light.

    A decision as to the number of these four-pipe units to be used and their distance/position from the end of the runway is still to be made. Flying Control has been requested to submit a detailed report of pilots reactions to the effectiveness of this equipment on the first occasion it is used under actual poor visibility conditions.

    Col. Charles E Marion
    DCS for Operations
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