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    Called in at RAF Poulton the other day, not much available to see for the general public, am told that most of it is The Duke of Westminsters Estate and you can't just go wandering around.

    Will be contacting the Estate on Thursday, hopefulloy they'll let photograph wahts left.

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    View from head of main runway looking West.



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    A couple of nice photos and some good light too. Look forward to seeing a few more and fingers crossed you get permission to visit the rest of the site.

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    passing Poulton, enroute to Hawarden

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    Does anyone know how a Tactical Exercise Unit ( TEU ) differs from an Operational Training Unit ( OTU ) in respect to RAF Poulton ?

    Was Eaton Hall ever used as an Officer Cadet Training Centre ?

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    I had a feeling that the TEU was rather like an Armament Practice Camp or the Fighter Leaders School were they taught specifics to pilots already posted to units. This may have been part of the training and build up to Overlord.

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    A TEU was specifically aimed at teaching the specifics of ground attack, as Peter says in the build-up to Overlord (and beyond). It was aimed at 2nd Tactical Air Force pilots who would mainly be flying Typhoons and Spitfires in service. The TEUs were typically equipped with Typhoons, Spitfires and Hurricanes. There were only two or three from memory and they were disbanded by autiumn 1944.

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    Correcting my own reply, and with reference to RAF Flying Training and Support Units since 1912 (Sturtivant & Hamlin), there were in fact four TEUs.

    No.1 TEU formed 1 Jan 1944 at Tealing out of No.1 Combat Training Wing, and disbanded 31 July 1944.

    No.2 TEU formed 15 Oct 1943 at Grangemouth out of No.2 Combat Training Wing, and disbanded 25 June 1944.

    No.3 TEU formed 14 March 1944 at Poulton, disbanded 21 March 1944 into No.41 OTU at Hawarden. Reformed on the same day at Annan by renumbering No.4 TEU. To Aston Down on 17 July 1944 and disbanded 18 Dec 1944.

    No.4 TEU formed 26 Jan 1944 at Annan out of No.55 OTU. Redesignated No.3 TEU on 21 March 1944.

    Presumably each airfield (and/or its satellites) had a suitable ground or sea range nearby for practicing low level bombing, strafing etc?

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    For Poulton I suspect that the ranges were Fenns Moss for dive bombing and Prestatyn for ATA & ATG firing. I did look at No.1 TEU ORB but found nothing on ranges. I know that Tealing used Lunan Bay, which appeared to be gunnery. Dummy attacks would also be made on factories and Army columns on the move, all by arrangement of course. Sadly none of the 2nd TAF books mention ranges, as far as I know, probably because the records don't but the pre-invasion build up created a lot of new ranges, some I have found and probably quite a few I haven't. They would have been only been used for a short time meaning they never got a mention on post war closure records.

    It's a shame really as some squadrons would have been working up on ranges with new weapons, some with R/P and some adding bombs to their training, especially dive bombing, although not the Ju87 type. The trouble is that I find this interesting but a lot of historians and readers don't and neither did the record keepers

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    Was Eaton Hall ever used as an Officer Cadet Training Centre ?

    Yes it was at least post-war. My stepfather was a discip sergeant on the permanent staff for around three years in the late '50s IIRC. This was Army not RAF.

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