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    Default Re: The Bartow HILV system

    Hi, my name's Gianni and Iím are passionate about collecting and fixing antiques. We have an old military lamp such as the one described on this forum:

    Line Material Co.
    Patent 2555295
    The Bartlow HIV system

    We have an original lamp, however there is no glass cover on our original lamp. We are very keen to find out if any-one knows how or where we can replace the glass on our original lamp and how much it

    Alternatively, we would also be interested in purchasing a replacement lamp, if any-one is selling one.

    If you have any information about how to get the glass for these lamps, or about how to buy another original lamp, please contact me.

    Thanks!

    Gianni
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    graimondi@gmail.com

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    Default Re: The Bartow HILV system

    HILV at Driffield in 1949?

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/je...fastest-school

    Clearest views of what appear to be HILV lamps are via the stills for 1:46 to 1:50.

    There are some nice shots from inside the Tower showing the lighting mimic board etc. straight after too.

    All the best,
    PB
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    Default Re: The Bartow HILV system

    After seeing a couple of new photos we may well be adding Chelveston to the HILV Installations list.

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    Good News! I recently dug one of these Bartow HILV Runway approach lights out of storage. It is complete and has been saved from the dumps and improper attempts at restoration. It even has the original tool for adjustments still inside the housing, and some extra spare film cuouts in the original line material envelope (well it is fried crispy but is original). If anyone is interested in this light feel free to contact me through the site. I hadn't intended on selling it but I guess anything is possible.
    Thanks for the site. Very informative information here!

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    8AF HILV Installations; status as of 18th January 1945

    Complete:
    Station 121 (Bassingbourn)
    Station 105 (Chelveston)
    Station 113 (Cheddington)
    Station 128 (Deenethorpe)
    Station 109 (Podington)
    Station 167 (Ridgewell)
    Station 111 (Thurleigh)
    Station 367 (Kings Cliffe)
    Station 179 (Harrington)
    Station 112 (Bovingdon)
    Station 120 (Attlebridge)
    Station 114 (Hethel)
    Station 123 (Horsham St Faith)
    Station 126 (Rattlesden)*
    Station 118 (Wendling)
    Station 124 (Tibenham)
    Station 468 (Bury St Edmunds)
    Station 142 (Deopham Green)
    Station 153 (Framlingham)
    Station 136 (Knetishall)
    Station 137 (Lavenham)
    Station 139 (Thorpe Abbots)

    In progress:
    Station 106 (Grafton Underwood) Material on hand, not started
    Station 130 (Glatton) 10% complete
    Station 131 (Nuthampstead) Material on hand, not started
    Station 125 (Bungay) 80% complete
    Station 124 (Tibenham) 60% complete
    Station 155 (Great Ashfield) 75% complete
    Station 119 (Horham) 85% complete
    Station 126 (Rattlesden) 85% complete*
    Station 174 (Sudbury) 50% complete

    Scheduled but not yet approved:
    Station 143 (North Pickenham)
    Station 144 (Old Buckenham)

    (Source: Teleprint message from UK Base Engineering, Eastern District, to 8AF HQ Engineering, 18/1/45

    * Note the contradiction concerning Rattlesden.
    There was apparently one error in the initial transmitted message (Station 104 sent instead of 105), which was noted and a poorly phrased correction sent 10 minutes later, but the Station 126 thing wasn't picked up.

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    Very interesting Paul. This shows that out of the final total of 70 stations, less than half were equipped, or being fitted just five months before the end of the conflict.
    Owing to the random order of the top list, I wonder if this was the order of completion?

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    Default Re: The Bartow HILV system

    There are a number of different papers on the HILV rollout program in the newly-received 1st Air Div files, including Installation Drawing M&E 3131/44.
    They also cover the removal and return to stores of the systems after VE Day.

    Edit to add: It also covers the specifications and components of the other lighting systems intended or in place at other 8AF stations; CL, AFL MkII, AFL MkIII, etc. plus SBA and the SCS-51 installation details.
    Last edited by P Bellamy; 07-04-2013 at 12:53.

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    Default Re: The Bartow HILV system-lenses available

    I just picked up one of these lights that was still sealed in its original shipping crate... Its in amazing condition.

    I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can get a bulb for it though. I've been looking around online but haven't found a compatible bulb anywhere.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Bellamy View Post
    8AF HILV Installations; status as of 18th January 1945

    Complete:
    Station 121 (Bassingbourn)
    Station 105 (Chelveston)
    Station 113 (Cheddington)
    Station 128 (Deenethorpe)
    Station 109 (Podington)
    Station 167 (Ridgewell)
    Station 111 (Thurleigh)
    Station 367 (Kings Cliffe)
    Station 179 (Harrington)
    Station 112 (Bovingdon)
    Station 120 (Attlebridge)
    Station 114 (Hethel)
    Station 123 (Horsham St Faith)
    Station 126 (Rattlesden)*
    Station 118 (Wendling)
    Station 124 (Tibenham)
    Station 468 (Bury St Edmunds)
    Station 142 (Deopham Green)
    Station 153 (Framlingham)
    Station 136 (Knettishall)
    Station 137 (Lavenham)
    Station 139 (Thorpe Abbots)

    In progress:
    Station 106 (Grafton Underwood) Material on hand, not started
    Station 130 (Glatton) 10% complete
    Station 131 (Nuthampstead) Material on hand, not started
    Station 125 (Bungay) 80% complete
    Station 124 (Tibenham) 60% complete
    Station 155 (Great Ashfield) 75% complete
    Station 119 (Horham) 85% complete
    Station 126 (Rattlesden) 85% complete*
    Station 174 (Sudbury) 50% complete

    Scheduled but not yet approved:
    Station 143 (North Pickenham)
    Station 144 (Old Buckenham)

    (Source: Teleprint message from UK Base Engineering, Eastern District, to 8AF HQ Engineering, 18/1/45

    * Note the contradiction concerning Rattlesden.
    There was apparently one error in the initial transmitted message (Station 104 sent instead of 105), which was noted and a poorly phrased correction sent 10 minutes later, but the Station 126 thing wasn't picked up.
    Further to the above list, the weekly report by the 1st Air Div's Division Engineer dated 6th May 1945 notes the following:

    Airfield Lighting
    Verbal information has been received that the proposed transfer of high lighting equipment from Cheddington to Alconbury will probably be cancelled, and it is also quite possible that high lighting will not be installed at Molesworth, Kimbolton or Polebrook, on which construction has not yet got underway.
    The following week's report includes this note:

    High Intensity Low Visibility Lighting
    Received information copy of a teletype from Headquarters, Eighth Air Force, to UK Base requesting cancellation of the project for removing the high intensity, low visibility lighting equipment from Cheddington to Alconbury.
    Last edited by Carnaby; 13-03-2014 at 14:25. Reason: knettishall (sp)

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