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    Default Kinnerley Ammunition Depots

    Does anyone have any information on what sort of ordnance was stored at Kinnerley to the west of Shrewsbury?

    Here's a quick GE trace showing the 80+ miles of railtrack laid and operated by the Royal Engineers to serve the multiple storage areas:



    Some gen on the rolling stock and history HERE.

    All the best,
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    Thanks Graham,

    I know I'd seen that map before but couldn't remember where.

    All the best,
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    I sent a link to this thread to a friend who is a railway AND aviation enthusiast. He comments:

    The railway in question is far more complicated than the question suggests.

    It is the former Shropshire & Montgomeryshire Light Railway a flea bitten
    joint if ever there was one. It started off as the ambitious The
    Potteries, Shrewsbury & North Wales Railway from about 1866, hence its
    nickname, The Potts. It became a "light" railway in 1911 to allow it to
    operate under the less onerous provisions of the Light Railway Act. It
    only ran as a route between Shrewsbury (The Abbey station) and Llanymynech
    with a branch to Criggion.

    It was on its last legs before the start of WWII but was taken over by the
    War Office in 1941 to serve dispersed ammo dumps and given a general
    uplift to allow it to continue to operate.

    there is a new book on the subject - An Illustrated History of the
    Shropshire and Montgomery Light Railway by Peter Johnson published by OPC,
    an imprint of Ian Allan. Under its proper title there will be one or more
    websites on the subject.

    A quick glance through the WWII years does not answer the question as to
    type of ammo stored but refers to 50,000 tons of explosives in storage.
    It became known as a Central Armaments Depot at Nesscliffe at some stage.
    The War Dept locos were operated by the Royal Engineers and one or more
    still exist as preserved items.

    The network closed in 1960 although the terminus in Shrewsbury by the
    Abbey was worked by British Rail into the 1980s before being redeveloped.

    Part of the site is now revived as a museum to an unusual line beloved of
    rail enthusiasts.

    The area around Nesscliffe is still an active military area.

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    Default Re: Kinnerley Ammunition Depots

    Although my primary interest is RAF munitions storage I gather info on Army and Navy sites as I come across them and Nescliff is one of them. Being Army (War Department) is would have stored all the expected ammunition especially artillery shell. The site was made up of four sub-sites Kinnerley, Pentre, Ford and Argoed.

    There was also a sub-site at Loton Park used for the storage of CW shell in a mass of Romney huts:

    http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepat...z=16&oz=7&gt=1
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    Default Re: Kinnerley Ammunition Depots

    Thanks Peter.

    I was aware there was a CW store as part of the depot but didn't know where.
    I've added it to the GE file:



    Argoed Sub-Depot: yellow
    Kinnerley Sub-Depot: red
    Pentre Sub-Depot: blue
    Ford Sub-Depot: green
    Loton Park Sub-Depot: purple
    S&MLR: white

    All the best,
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    All you have to do now is decide if it 'Nesscliff' or 'Nescliffe'. A 1946 introductory booklet issued to new staff by the CO uses the former spelling whereas latterday maps use Nescliife. For me it's NESCLIFF.

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    Yet another annoyance, like Churchstanton / Church Stanton, Spittlegate / Spitalgate.

    It seems that most use Nesscliffe, whereas the Army / MoD dropped the 'e'. There are a few businesses in the area also with the shorter spelling.

    Trying to get to the bottom this using an 'advanced' Google search failed. I suspect there are many instances of people inadvertently adding or dropping the 'e' when refering to the area or the establishment.

    Very confusing

    Graham

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    According to the US CWS Official History chemical sections were activated in general depots at Barry, Westbury, Histon and Hilsea. Chemical ammunition depots were set up at Shepton Mallet and Loton Deer Park in November 1943.

    The largest SOS CWS ammunition storage facility, that at
    Loton Deer Park, was designed primarily for incendiary storage, secondarily
    for toxic storage, mostly of air force munitions
    Last edited by ColinBa; 28-11-2010 at 11:32. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: Kinnerley Ammunition Depots

    Thanks for that snippet Colin. It lends credence to my suspicion that the major Army munitions storage areas were used also for the storage of air dropped stores.

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