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    Quote Originally Posted by DG1 View Post
    Just found out some more information about Todd & Utting. Don't want to hijack this thread or cause ructions.
    So should I start a new thread or keep quiet as it is nothing to do with Airfields.
    Please post away DG1, I was trying to avoide a debate on here with the thread going completely off topic! If you have any more info, then please add it. I will tidy this thread up later anyway.

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    Default Re: Remembrance Day - Remembering a local war grave

    Thanks REF.
    Seems like some of the answers I've found, causes more questions.

    Utting Herbert James.
    Private 3/7764 Norfolk Regiment 3rd Bn.
    Commonwealth war dead 30th May 1915 age 17.
    Son of James and Louisa Utting, of Barney, Guist, Norfolk. Born at Fulmodeston.
    1911 census.
    Head James Utting 44 Agriculture labour born Fulmodeston
    Wife Louisa 36 married 11yrs born kettlestone
    Son Tuck Herbert James 13 Agriculture labour born Fulmodeston
    Son Albert George 10 born Croxton
    (Louisa born 1874 married 1899, died 1931 aged 56)

    It appears that Herbert was born out of wedlock, two years before his mother married.
    Now was his second name, James given to him because his father was James Utting or named after his grandfather James Tuck?
    Sometime between 1911 and him joining the army he had changed his name to Utting.

    1891 Census.
    Surname. First names. Relationship. Sex. Age. Occupation. Where born.
    Tuck James Head M 36 Agric labour Kettlestone.
    Tuck Susan Wife F 37 Billingford.
    Tuck Louisa Daughter F 16 Domestic Kettlestone.
    Tuck John W son M 14 Agric labour kettlestone.
    Tuck Henry son M 12 Agric Labour Kettlestone.
    Tuck George son M 10 Scholar Kettlestone.
    Tuck Albert son M 9 Scholar Kettlestone.
    Tuck Isaac son M 4 Kettlestone.


    Todd Bertie
    Private 5312 Norfolk Regiment 3rd/5th Bn.
    Commonwealth war dead 24th April 1916 age 28.
    Son of George and Hannah Todd, of Fulmodeston, Guist NFK

    The closest I can find to Bertie Todd in the 1911 census is this.
    TODD, BERTIE JAMES HEAD. MARRIED M 22. AUCTIONEER AND VALUES. SUFFOLK NORFOLK
    TODD, EDITH SARAH. SISTER SINGLE F 15 DOMESTIC WORK SUFFOLK NORFOLK.
    WATSON, WINIFRED BEATRICE VISITOR SINGLE F 13 SCHOOL PART TIME AND DOMESTIC WORK ESSEX ILFORD
    Living at 81 LOWER CLIFF ROAD GORLESTON.

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    Regarding Geoffrey William Brown Richard, he would only have been 17 in 1945. Could the aircraft have been an interest factor other than a service statement?
    The grave almost out of shot appears to have a tractor on it, maybe these are themed graves
    Sorry to drift the thread

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    Geoffery William Brown would have been 12 in 1940. so not in Raf in ww2 could have been in later.
    Did a search of family notices in EDP page and Diss Mercury but nothing there.

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    Well just to balance it up a fraction, here is my effort. Seven Turkish nationals who died while interned on the Isle of Man (not sure which camp).




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    A few that I took today at Moreton in Marsh. Just down towards the town from the old airfield/Fire Station. There are about 10 Canadian graves, 3 Australian, 4 New Zealand and the rest RAF.

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    Beautiful detail in those shots!

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    Taken on the 2 November 2010 at Bawdsey, Suffolk. Interesting to note they both died on the same day, 4 August 1963.






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    Being a pleasant day I went for a stroll in the Itchen Valley. I happened upon the church at Itchen Abbas and within the grounds was this grave -



    It appears both father and son were pilots and both were lost whilst flying I presume, one in 1942 the other in 1967. It gave me pause for thought.

    Incidently just opposite here was an RAF grave for a Flight Lieutenant who was lost in a flying accident in Germany in 1971. I think this may relate to a Buccaneer accident.
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    What a terrible tragedy !! Well done hdf, at least now their grave will be seen world-wide and not forgotten. RIP.

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