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    Hello and good evening to you all.

    My name is tom and i sit on the Spaldington parish counsel where this site sits.

    As you may know this it is about to turned into a windfarm.

    The reason i am posting this message is due to a statement made tonight by the developer of the site.

    They have stated that they are searching the site for munishions, there is a posablity that the site was used though world war one and world war 2 for the storage of munishions.

    We as a cominity are worryed about this and wish to find out further as the developer knows very little about the site and we do not want them to find somthing that could cuase damage to local houses and business's.

    Also rased at the meeting was Mr Wallis links to the site and posable use for storage.

    All this was new to me but we are also aware of breighton airfield war record with heavy bommers and again there are storys in the local area this site could have been used for disposal of heavy munitions and also storage away from the air feild during the war.

    So any way does any one know anything about this, the windfarm company seams to be and they are not keen on telling us anything.

    Thanks for your time guys


    tom

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    Welcome to AiX wntic.

    During World War 1, this area was a Royal Naval Airship Station and, as such, would have stores relatively small amounts of aerial bombs usually in the 20 pound weight range and small arms ammunition. The station closed after WW1 and came back into use in the 1930s for the development of the commercial airship R101 but was closed before WW2.

    With the close proximity of RAF Breighton to the northwest it is possible - but unlikley - that immediately post-war that the Howden site was used for the temporary surface storage of surplus aerial bombs prior to final disposal. Usually - for RAF munitions - redundant airfields were used for this purpose since they were already under Air Ministry control.

    That leaves, then, possible use by the military (Army). There was already an RAOC Depot at Baralow (6 miles to the southwest) so this is unlikely.

    In any case, it was incumbent for the RAF and Army to carry out a formal search of the areas within their boundaries using Bomb Disposal teams before handover of the land to the previous owner. A certificate of 'free from explosives' was recorded at and issued from the Air Ministry or War Department and this covered a search and disposal to a maximum depth of 2 feet.

    We then consider any bombs dropped through enemy action or allied accident during either world wars and whether they were dealt with at the time or recorded as low risk and low priority.

    Reasonably, a developer has to consider the risk that any unknown unexploded munitions may pose and follow guidelines such as:

    http://www.pmss.com/.../Unexploded%2...Risk%203.2.pdf

    http://www.zetica.com/uxb_downloads.htm

    I should have thought that Yorkshire County Records Office would have information of any post war military use of the Howden field.

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    There is a book on it, mentioned earlier, for an almighty 3.95:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Howdens-Airs...2958611&sr=8-2

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    I missed this one as the names didn't connect. I believe part of the area was used as a bombing range during the war and known as Spaldington. I have the danger radius at 550yds and the location as SE749323, however the exact location is not yet confirmed.
    This may explain the search for munitions although they would only have been practice rounds.

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    On this page: http://welweb.org/ThenandNow/ZR-2.html

    I have an image of the Howden site, which, is overlaid with a graphic of the former RNAS buildings. You may find this, and the reference document answers your question!

    Quote Originally Posted by CDP View Post
    Does anyone know where I might obtain plans (should they exist of course) of RNAS Howden, Yorkshire?

    The site opened in 1915 as an airship station for the defence of the north-east coast, thereabouts, was decommissioned after WW1 and brought back into life as an airship station during the inter-war period. Barnes Wallis and his team (including Nevil Shute), working for the Airship Guarantee Company, designed and built the R-100 here.

    I know it's a long shot but worth a go.

    Chris

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    WWelker, Chris (CDP) was part of the ARG team that investigated the site at Howden which led to the two archaeology reports on the station, one of which is now down loadable from http://welweb.org/ThenandNow/ZR-2.html which I presume is your web site.

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    Finally able to confirm that the target was at SE 74996 32445 and was a white triangle originally and later a larger white circle was added. Aerial photos from 1942 clearly show the concrete blocks from the demolished airship sheds and many other features. By 1948 these were less distinct, probably overgrown, and the white circle was by then only an empty trench with only the vaguest signs of the original target. The photo below is a now and then comparison and I have put the white back into the circle and added a triangle where the target would have been. I have not positively identified the quadrant locations or the direction arrow location and it is possible both were removed by 1948 and if the arrow was an above surface one, no signs would be visible.


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    Great shame nothing has been done to preserve at least some of the Howden sites buildings ,this county was after all a major contributor in Airship development, one could suggest a Halifax/ Lancaster attitude in respect of the R100.fair comment ?

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    Fair comment indeed, especially as the foundation blocks for the smaller rigid airship shed are still in place as well as the fuel installation for the airship engines. I have no doubt that the blocks for the twin shed were there aswell, before they built the golf course.

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